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While the United States and Germany are browbeating Serbia into the last leg of surrendering Kosovo to the narco-terrorist mafia demanding it, the latter are beating up female missionaries.

It happened this past November, and for almost two weeks was kept quiet and out of the news. And it happened in the very capital of our Kosovo “success,” Pristina. The Albanian perpetrators attacked Americans, their stubbornly eternal benefactors at Christian-Orthodox expense. (And of course at the expense of local Roma, Turk, Bosniak, Ashkali and Gorani Muslims who were just fine with rule from Belgrade.) When the news did finally get out, via an AP report, it was carried only locally and in Utah:

2 LDS sister missionaries attacked in Kosovo (Fox 13 Now, Nov. 13, 2013)

SALT LAKE CITY — Two American missionaries for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were attacked in Kosovo; it happened in the city of Pristina ten days ago, but news reports of the beating just surfaced late Wednesday afternoon.

The incident is being tied to terrorism and the suspects responsible have been arrested.

[An actual arrest is unusual for Kosovo; then again, the victims weren’t among Kosovo’s ethnic minorities, so they count for something.]

Fox 13 News has learned two sister missionaries were beaten by Albanians, who are also tied to plotting a terrorist attack. The LDS Church said the two young women are out of harm’s way and doing OK.

[Also unusual: This local Fox affiliate actually identified the perpetrators directly as Albanians.]

Kosovo is tucked away in the Eastern block of Europe; the country is no stranger to political strife. Video from 2004 shows the break-away Balkan territory suffering from bombings, protests and riots. Civil unrest was not uncommon during that time, and today there are growing concerns about the rise of Islamic extremism in the country.

[Now there’s a nice, neutral way of putting it. Why provide readers/viewers context for what just happened to their fellow Mormons, such as being specific about who was rioting and hurling those Molotov cocktails in 2004? Specifically, Albanians continuing their ethnic and religious purification process while sending a message to the internationals to hurry up with the hand-over of the cleansed Serbian territory.]

Six Albanians suspected of plotting a terrorist attack were arrested ten days ago, and authorities believe two of them beat two sister missionaries in the capital city of Pristina on Nov. 3.

The LDS Church released a statement saying, “We can confirm two sister missionaries were beaten in Kosovo and have been moved out of the area. Gratefully they are making a full recovery.” […]

The video at the link below also uses that oh-so-controversial identifier “…attacked by a group of Albanians.” (As opposed to terms preferred by polite society, like “former Yugoslavs”; “Kosovars”; or “in Serbia.”) The accompanying report mentions that two of the total six arrested reputedly fought alongside Syrian rebels:

2 LDS Sister Missionaries Attacked in Kosovo

SALT LAKE CITY — Two suspected terrorists are being held in Kosovo after a Nov. 3 attack on two American women serving as missionaries of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

A total of six men were arrested Nov. 5 in connection with an alleged terrorist plot “inspired by extreme Islamist ideology.” Two of the six are suspects in the investigation of the attack on the LDS missionaries, a senior police official involved with the investigation told the Associated Press.

After being treated in Pristina, the two women left Kosovo to return to the mission home in Tirana, Albania, about a three-hour drive. The women are part of the Adriatic South Mission, which includes Kosovo, Albania and Macedonia. [What a lucky assignment for two women!]

Six ethnic Albanians suspected of plotting a terrorist attack inspired by extreme Islamist ideology, including two believed to have fought alongside Syrian rebels, have been arrested in Kosovo, officials said Tuesday.

A seventh suspect remains at large.

One last report had the detail of a flashlight being used to hit the women in the head:

Two LDS Sister Missionaries Recover after Attack in Kosovo (KUTV, Nov. 13)

…On November 5th, the beating suspects and four others, all ethnic Albanians, were arrested for allegedly planning a terrorist attack. Police said they found a sniper rifle, handguns and explosive materials at the suspects’ houses.

An elder serving in the same mission, posted on his blog that the American embassy in Kosovo reported that the attackers were part of a larger group that has unfriendly feelings toward the LDS church. That missionary also said the sister missionaries were beaten with flashlights and that since the attack, missionaries in that area travel in packs of four.

The mother of one of the victims told us over the phone the two young women are recovering and made the decision to continue serving, although in a different mission area.

Really? Not in safe and stable, multi-ethnic-democracy Kosovo? ( “[Biden] stressed the United States’ continuing, irreversible support for Kosovo’s independence, territorial integrity, and sovereignty as a multi-ethnic democracy.” That’s Vice President Biden, who former Defense Secretary Robert Gates this month confirmed “has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.” Meanwhile, what else in the political world is emphatically described as “irreversible,” with use of terms like “eternal,” a hint that Kosovo and the U.S. are condemned to each other, inextricably linked to guard each others’ secrets and crimes like a pair of Clintons.)

It was only thanks to reader J. Brock, a non-Serb outraged over “what the U.S. and other governments are doing to Serbs,” and his puzzlement that most everyone is fooled, that I even learned of this incident. He himself came upon it through some twitter post with a link to an angry ex-Mormon’s blog raging over the incident. So, it was only local Utah news and Mormons or ex-Mormons on forums or blogs, who wrote or knew of it. Some unreported details came from that ex-Mormon blogger — Utahnite — who claims that local media only covered it after community forums such as his shamed them into it:

It was 2 sister missionaries, who were beaten severely with a sharp [or blunt] object to the head & shoved down a flight of stairs…They had to have their heads shaved & stitched up & they’re now recovering in the church mission home & YES, OF COURSE, brainwashed as they are..PLAN TO FINISH THEIR MISSIONS! If their parents had ANY SENSE..they’d demand they come home, NOW!

Utahnite also wondered what Mormon missionaries were doing in Kosovo to begin with. According to an August 2012 article, the LDS Church established itself in Pristina in mid 2011, and Adriatic South Mission president Andrew Ford “says the country is ‘just another place, and we’re used to all sorts of places’ …There are plans to…introduce women (or ’sister missionaries’) into the country next year.”

That doesn’t seem to be going so well.

Kosovo’s being tough for Christian missionaries is a theme that’s come up before. A 2010 article in Cornerstone University’s The Herald (which has since been removed, and the young missionary couple — an American and her converted Albanian husband — asked that their names not be mentioned), read in part:

Kosovo is a Muslim country…religion is not just a faith for them — it is a culture… “When a person converts to Christianity in Kosovo it seems like you are betraying heritage, family, culture,” [____] said. Because of this, [her husband] could not openly tell others that he is a Christian. He needed to wait until the right time and build the right relationships. [His] faith is still a secret to some of his friends and family…

Another Christian group had the misfortune of operating in Kosovo in time for the 2004 riots. If one follows the World English Institute’s “Kosova” chronicle (Prizren, Kosova Church of Christ; the church in Kosova is under persecution) one will notice these excerpts:

The church grew in number and in spirit for a period. In April 04, the people of Prizren raided the school stealing property.

The church has changed significantly recently. Jim is back in Scotland. Several moved to Prishtina for university studies. The Muslim community has become violent, and the assembly is now in the home of Ismajl…”

April 2004
Comments: The church in Prizren is in a city subject to conflicts between the resident Muslims and a few Serbs. The Serbs, confined to their homes for the most part, recently have seen their church buildings burned. NATO failed to halt this conflict. WEI’s school and the church in Prizren suffered loss of some items in their building and are now meeting in homes, appropriately.

Note: August 04
It has been reported that shots were fired over the house where the church meets. This is the home of Ismajl who not only hosts the assemblies, but he regularly teaches students using WEI’s lessons.”

Dear Dick,

Thanks for your words of encouragement.

There were two days of “demonstrations” in Kosova on the 18th and 19th of March. About 30 people were killed around the country, including several UN workers. I arrived the following week, and by then all was calm….all of the windows had been broken out of the WEI office and church meeting place. However, they had regrouped, as it were, and were meeting in one of the members home…In Christ and for His sake,

One is reminded to be dismayed that the flood of Christian groups into post-war Kosovo has focused on Albanians more than on helping their Orthodox brethren, who needed food, clothes, medicine, housing and support. And of course this one uses the majority-Muslim usurper’s pronunciation and spelling of the Christian-Serb province.

Between the LDS news and this weekend’s shooting at Columbia Mall in Maryland, it’s become relevant to bring up a certain other mall shooting. This past October NY Post carried a noteworthy item by Paul Sperry, which deigned to bring up the 2007 Valentine’s massacre at Trolley Square in Salt Lake City. The Post article also dared to utter the Bosnian-Muslim name and origin of the perpetrator, Sulejman Talovic, and to be emphatic via photos and a TV news clip. (Do check out the last sentence of that two-minute report.) “Dared,” because the Bosnian Muslims are our other protegees at Orthodox-Serb expense. Significantly, Trolley Square was the first deadly mall shooting in America. Links and bold emphasis added:

Could the Kenya attack happen here? It did (NY Post, Oct. 12, 2013)

After Islamic gunmen attacked the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya, the collective reaction from the US media was to speculate whether such terror could happen here, as if a jihadist assault on a mall inside America had never before been tried.

CNN was typical: “Can it happen here? Yes, say security experts, but it hasn’t.”

News flash: it did.

On the evening of Feb. 12, 2007, a young Muslim man walked into the Trolley Square mall in Salt Lake City with a pistol-grip, 12-gauge shotgun and a 38-caliber revolver and opened fire on shoppers, killing five and wounding four others, including a pregnant woman.

Police say he “sought to kill as many people as possible.” He had a backpack full of ammunition, enough firepower to massacre dozens of innocent people. But fortunately, an off-duty cop returned fire and eventually, with the help of other police, put an end to the terrorist’s life and grand plans.

Twice as many people were killed at the Utah mall than the Boston Marathon. Yet the attack garnered few national headlines.

Local media wrote it off as the act of a madman, parroting the quick conclusion of law enforcement.

Officially, the FBI declared the mass shooting was not an act of terrorism.

“We were unable to pin down any particular motive,” said Tim Fuhrman, then-special agent in charge of the bureau’s field office in Salt Lake City. “Unfortunately, his motivations went to the grave with him.”

Sulejman Talovic
Photo: AP

But the FBI ignored much of the shooter’s background.

A Salt Lake City police officer inside the Trolley Square Mall Feb., 12, 2007, the night of the shooting
Photo: AP

The shooter was Sulejmen Talovic, an 18-year-old Bosnian immigrant named after Suleiman the Magnificent, the 16th-century jihadist-turned-sultan.

As early as 2004, police were called to Talovic’s school after it was discovered that he was looking at Tek-9 semiautomatic firearms on the Internet and boasting that his “grandfather was in the jihad.”

It was a reference to the 1990s holy war between Bosnian Muslims and Christian Serbs in which his grandfather was reportedly killed.

And yet, even with this boastful admission, our news media and so-called law enforcement insisted that the boy probably became demented by the fighting that resulted from that jihad rather than by a family history of violence in the jihad itself. (Again, check out the last sentence of that news clip.)

Apparently, Talovic had prepared for his own martyrdom. He told a friend before the attack that “tomorrow is going to be the happiest day of my life, but it will happen only once.”

“One interpretation of this statement is that Talovic was happy that he was going to be a shahid — that he would be committing jihad and go to paradise,” according to a July 2, 2007, electronic communication from the Salt Lake City field office to the counterterrorism division of the FBI.

Before leaving for the mall, which was located just a few minutes from the mosque he attended, he showered and put on a necklace featuring a miniature Koran, a gift from his father [also a jihad veteran].

Prior to his death, some witnesses overheard Talovic shouting “Allahu Akbar!” — or “Allah is greatest!” — a ritual cry of suicide terrorists.

Talovic was “described as religious,” according to the FBI communiqué, marked “Secret.” “He had attend[ed] the mosque regularly for Friday prayers.”

That mosque was the Al-Noor Mosque, led by a Somali national. Some investigators suspect Talovic was radicalized there.

These details are buried in the more than 745 pages of investigative reports generated in the case by the FBI, the same agency that officially claims it found no evidence Talovic’s religion was a factor.

“Clearly, he had some religious beliefs,” Fuhrman said, “but just because someone has religious beliefs doesn’t mean anything is a terrorist act.”

No, but it strains credulity that Talovic wasn’t animated by his faith. There was an abundance of clues he was motivated at least in part by jihadist impulses. […]

According to a Utah-local report on Feb. 21, 2007 (link no longer available), Talovic’s initial target may have been an LDS church:

“Was Talovic Spotted at LDS Church?”

A security worker for the LDS church reveals to ABC 4 News, security guards watching over the crowds at Music and the Spoken Word the Sunday before the Trolley Square shootings were trailing a man he believes was Sulejmen Talovic… “There was a suspicious man with an overcoat and a back pack…[He] appeared to be carrying something inside the coat that he kept adjusting.”

The security worker says the young man resembled Talovic and in the week following the Trolley Square killings, many of his peers in LDS security agree Talovic was amidst the crowd at the conference center just one day before the shootings. “If we wouldn’t have been on our toes something could have happened. We highly believe it was him.”

ABC 4 News spoke with LDS church spokesperson Scott Trotter, who confirmed video tape was rolled on the suspicious person, and that the person had a similarity to Talovic…The security worker tells ABC 4 News he believes the man left after seeing that security procedures dictate purse and back pack searches before entrance to the conference center is permitted. […]

But the dossier on Bosnia and Kosovo be damned: Always in step with U.S. policy on the Balkans and Eastern Orthodoxy, “Hollywood has resolutely kept its eye on the real threat. Serbian terrorism,” Daniel Greenfield wrote last Friday. “The United States has remained unscathed by Serbian terrorism, though…this weekend, ‘Ride Along’…once again takes on the terrible threat of: Serbian terrorism. When the Serbs aren’t available, the Russians have to step in…When ‘Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit’ featured a terrorist cell in Dearborn, even though Muslims dominate the area, the villains were shown operating out of a Russian Orthodox church and getting their cues from a priest reading the bible while the terrorists cried out, ‘Slava Bogu’ or ‘Praise God.’”

In closing, one must linger on a sentence contained in the NY Post item above: “[T]he Islamic element was so efficiently scrubbed from the Trolley Square terrorist attack that Salt Lake charities and local Mormons helped raise funds for Talovic’s family to prepare and ship their son’s bullet-ridden body to Bosnia for an Islamic burial.

The United Suckers of America have similarly stepped up for Kosovo, in one case donating and transporting a fire truck (link no longer available):

“2012 - Mason helps Kosovo, Dart grows and Dansville gets tech” (Lansing Journal, Dec 31, 2012)

INGHAM COUNTY — An international act of charity and growth for a company that has its international headquarters in Mason were top stories for southern Ingham County in 2012.

The Leslie School District opened a 100-acre nature center and Dansville Public Schools gave every student an iPad this year as well.

An unfortunate setback for a plan for Mason to donate a fire truck from Mason to Kosovo turned into [an] example of vigorous community support.

After two years of red tape, inspections and planning, the 1984 decommissioned fire truck donation from the Mason Fire Department was on its way to Selfridge Airforce Base when on Aug. 6 when it broke down near Brighton.

Mason Mayor Leon Clark was driving the truck in what he thought was its final ride in America before taking a 5,000-mile trip by cargo plane to Germany, than to the town of Vitina in Kosovo.

But instead it had to miss its flight because of a costly blown head gasket.

Undeterred, the community stepped up again to not only help get the truck repaired but raise funds to send people along with it.

An all-day fund-raiser on Sept. 10 at the Mason A & W raised $1,700 towards the cost of sending people, along with a $1,000 donation from the Ingham County Mounted Division and $1,000 private donation from a member of the Mason Rotary Club.

“If you add in the over $2,000 worth of repairs donated by Mark Hildebrandt at Done Right Auto and RV, you can see that this has truly become a community wide project, that everyone is proud of,” he said.

The truck and four Mason officials eventually made it to Kosovo along with extra equipment in November.

Fire truck that was headed for Kosovo. Poor fire truck.

From another report:

…The city seems to have a fondness for Kosovo: shortly after its civil war, eight refugee families moved to Mason. Jakup Jahiri, a Kosovo native, came to the city two years ago to visit his son and was amazed at the amount of firefighting equipment Mason had when his own city had so little.

“[Jahiri] said, ‘You must sleep very peacefully at night to have this amount of trucks and equipment for the size of town that you have,’” said Mason Fire Chief Kerry Minshall. “That led to the discussion about what they do and don’t have over there and we decided to see what we could do to get this donated to them.”

This time around, Clark, along with three other Mason firefighters, are accompanying the truck across the Atlantic. But the donations don’t stop there — they are also donating lightly used supplies, including coats, pants, boots, gloves, helmets, hoses, exhaust fans and a set of jaws of life. Clark and his team are going to spend some time in Vitina after the delivery showing the local firefighters how to use some of the equipment and making sure everything gets delivered intact — and with no breakdowns.

A reference point on Vitina, among countless others: Kosovo: Serb house destroyed in fire (B92, Oct. 1, 2007)

KOSOVSKA VITINA, Oct 1 (Tanjug) - A local Serb’s house burned in a fire that broke out late Sunday in the village of Klokot, near Kosovska Vitina. The house belonged to Milan Nedeljkovic, who escaped unharmed. Locals suspect that the incident was the work of arsonists…[T]he Nedeljkovic family moved to their old house because it is located in “a better protected part of the village.”

A week ago, in the same village, unidentified gunmen opened fire on a store owned by local Serb Bora Spasic. Although a dozen people were inside the store at the time of the attack, no one was injured.

So, who’s sleeping less “peacefully at night”? Kosovo’s Albanians, because there aren’t enough fire trucks? Or Kosovo’s non-Albanians, because the Albanians habitually set their houses, schools, and churches on fire? Knowing, of course, that there aren’t enough fire trucks.

I leave you with a Vitina news item that opened 2013, with its festivities for Kosovo’s five-year independence anniversary:

KPS suspend members over WW2 memorial incident (Beta, Jan. 22, 2013)

PRIŠTINA — The Kosovo police, KPS, have announced that five of their members were suspended over an incident that occurred on Monday in the town of Vitina. They include the police station and operations chief, according to a statement.

According to a Beta report, it was said that “despite announcements” from the directorate in Priština, they did not undertake the measures to prevent the tearing down of a monument.

The memorial was dedicated to the fighters of the WW2 anti-fascist Partisan troops (NOV).

According to the news agency, “a group of about 100 citizens led by the president of the organization of veterans of the former KLA” yesterday attacked and brought down the memorial.

The incident - filmed and posted on YouTube - was one in a series in Kosovo on Sunday and Monday, when ethnic Albanians targeted Serb cemeteries and memorial sites.


I missed one additional report, on Glenn Beck’s “The Blaze” blog, confirming that the women were thrown down a flight of stairs, and offering a few other specifics about the suspects:

Islamic Extremists Reportedly Attack Two Female Mormon Missionaries in Kosovo (The Blaze, Nov. 14, By Billy Hallowell)

Arrests have been made after two American women were brutally beaten on Nov. 3 in Pristina, Kosovo. The victims were serving there as missionaries…[and] were reportedly followed home by the assailants, thrown down a flight of stairs and hit in the head with a sharp object. While they sustained numerous wounds, the victims miraculously survived.

It didn’t take long for authorities to locate their alleged attackers. Just two days after the incident, six men were arrested in connection with an alleged terror plot that was “inspired by extreme Islamist ideology,” The Associated Press reported.

Two of these individuals who are being identified as ethnic Albanians are also reportedly suspects in the investigation of the missionaries’ beating. According to The Salt Lake Tribune, they are accused of joining four others in planning an attack on an unidentified target. A seventh suspect is reportedly still on the run.

The Associated Press said that an arrest warrant listed the men following names: Genc Selimi, Nuredin Sylejmani, Valon Shala, Adrian Mehmeti, Musli Hyseni, Bekim Mulalli and Fidan Demolli. […]

The above-linked AP-Salt Lake Tribune report, meanwhile, mentioned a few other unmentionables (links and bold added):

…Authorities have grown increasingly worried about the rise of extremism in a country with a strong presence of NATO peacekeepers, including hundreds of U.S. troops. Authorities had followed the alleged terrorist cell for three months after intercepting a call allegedly plotting an attack with another person of Kosovo descent in an unnamed European country….

Gee, any chance this “alarming” trend of rising extremism in a U.S.-overseen area has something to do with the Rules of Engagement for our troops in Kosovo: If you encounter Albanian rebels, turn tail and run (but report it to a “higher,” so he can do nothing about it). Oh, and if you stop patrolling the dangerous areas, then you’re not likely to encounter them in the first place.

Four of the suspects were arrested in a park in Pristina by undercover police agents posing as weapons dealers, the police official said. Another suspect was arrested in central Pristina and the sixth in the eastern town of Gnjilane…A sniper rifle, handguns and material for making an improvised explosive device were found in suspects’ houses, according to the police official.

A justice official said the suspects had been watched by video surveillance, phone tapping, and email monitoring….Though the country of 2 million is overwhelmingly secular, ethnic Albanians from Kosovo and neighboring Macedonia have been linked with terror plots in the United States, including a foiled bombing last year in Tampa, Fla., and a 2007 attack on military personnel at Fort Dix in New Jersey.

Nice to see that someone in MSM world has belatedly started keeping track.

Around 150 ethnic Albanians are believed to have joined foreign fighters battling the forces of Syria’s President Bashar Assad and some 12 are believed to have been killed there.

On Tuesday local media said police and justice officials received an email threatening to launch “painful attacks” on police if they do not release the suspects. […]

Sounds a lot like the kinds of demands and threats that Serbian authorities are used to getting from those secular, ‘non-extremist’ Albanians. Ah, the new Albanian ’state’ may eventually get a taste of its own medicine, becoming the Serbs dealing with Albanian threats and violence. It’s always nice to get to know oneself a little bit better.

Bosnian MP arrested on suspicion of war crimes: report (FOCUS News Agency, July 19)

Bosnia’s state security agency on Friday announced the arrest of a Muslim member of parliament suspected of war crimes against ethnic Serbs during the Balkan country’s civil war, local media said, cited by AFP.

Semsudin Mehmedovic, whose SDA party represents the nation’s Muslim majority, is suspected of abusing ethnic Serbs as a police chief and making arbitrary arrests during the 1990s conflict, a spokeswoman for the agency told local media.

The crimes allegedly took place in 1992 and 1993 in Tesanj, 150 kilometres (93 miles) north of the capital Sarajevo, when Mehmedovic was the town’s police chief, spokeswoman Kristina Jozic said.

A probe into the case began last year, and three other suspects are still being investigated, she said.

Mehmedovic has been a member of parliament since 2006. […]

This is an interesting arrest. Why now? What’s — literally — the deal? After all, this is a big honcho, who is well known for infiltrating Bosnia with radicals, getting them weapons through Croatia, and being Bosnia’s al-Qaeda hook-up. Just look at this blog’s previous mentions of him:

[W]ell-known figures associated with the political and security apparatus, such as Siladzic and hard-liner Semsudin Mehmedovic, were nurturing the Wahhabis — and aiding foreign Islamic terrorist groups in Bosnia. In 1996, while police chief in Zenica, Mehmedovic was charged by the New York Times of “having sheltered foreign Islamic fundamentalist fighters, of crushing moderate Muslim political forces and of fostering hatred between Muslims and Croats. According to Galijasevic, Mehmedovic remains “the chief of al Qaeda in Bosnia….

“Mehmedovic was the man who signed off on marriage licenses for Jihad fighters who came to Bosnia and got married off with local Muslim women.

“According to Michael Sells citing Washington Post’s reports back in 1996, ‘The U.S. government, if it were serious about enforcing the Dayton accords, could simply ask its close friends in Kuwait and Riyadh to stop supporting extremist fundamentalist[s] like Mehmedovic who are trying to destroy the Dayton agreement and establish what would be an Islamic ghetto in the heart of Europe.’”

Maybe that’s what finally happened, 17 years later, the belated “war crimes” charges being just the pretext to get rid of him? Shedding some light on all this:

CIA, MUJAHIDEEN AND SDA IN CAHOOTS (Serb Republic News Agency, Aug. 2)

During and after the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, El Mujahid unit commander Abu Mali was an operations liaison of Šemsudin Mehmedović of the Party of Democratic Action (SDA)…claims counter-terrorism expert Dževad Galijašević.

Galijašević told Srna that throughout the war Abu Mali had been supplying information to an Islamic group in San Diego, California about the course and goals of the war.

He says that this piece of information, as well as the fact that pilots who participated in the 9/11 attack were trained not only in Germany, but also in San Diego, became known after a press conference of the director of the National Security Agency, Army General Keith Alexander.

Galijašević claims that NSA confirmed on Thursday the findings and information that the Southeast Europe Expert Team…had constantly been delivering to security agencies and the public.

He says that Mehmedović kept his operations liaison – Abu Mali – under the title Vazal (vassal). When the Mujahideen commander learnt about it, he was insulted because, according to Galijašević, vazal means “a servant of the occupying forces” and not “a servant of God.”

Galijašević notes that the first Mujahideen arrived in Bosnia and Herzegovina thanks to Mehmedović who brought them to the village Jablanica near Tešanj, and that Mehmedović also cooperated with Sheikh Abel Aziz Barbarossa, who was charged with an attack on a residential complex in Dhahran in Saudi Arabia in 1996, in which 372 people were wounded and 19 were killed.

Galijašević noted that in the war, Mehmedović helped many Mujahideen to meet the requirements for BiH citizenship by facilitating their marriages with local women.

“He also hosted the infamous terrorist group from Roubaix in France. One of its chiefs Christophe Caze Abu Velid took a photo holding a cut-off head of a Serb at Crni Vrh near Tešanj, for which case an investigation into Mehmedović is underway,” says Galijašević.

Abu Mali is [a] citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina even today and lives at the address of the Presidency of BiH. He was granted citizenship under one of his 170 doubtful names by that or a similar institution, says Galijašević.

His previous address was at the Spanish Embassy in Sarajevo, he claims.

Abu Mali, that is to say an Algerian by the name of Abdelkader Mokhtari, got his BiH citizenship under the name of Khalid Ibn Abdullah, who is of Kuwaiti descent, as did Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, who was the first accused for the 9/11 attacks. Galijašević says that the two are listed one after the other in the BiH citizenship records.

Abu Mali later changed his name to Halid Ćatić and then held a position of an attaché with the BiH diplomatic mission to the UN under the name of Safet Abid Ćatović.

The only problem, according to Galijašević, is the fact that during the war in BiH, CIA used the services of Abu Mali and that now the agency cannot talk about the nature of that relationship.

The US also knew that Mohamed Atta, the main operative of the 9/11 attacks, held BiH citizenship and that one year before the attack, he had spent six months in Bočinja near Maglaj.

In the surveillance scandal, NSA proved that it had been aware of those data, which its director himself disclosed.

Galijašević says that General Alexander had definitely confirmed the connection between Khalid al-Mihdhar and the so-called group from San Diego, where Mihdhar took pilot training, and that in a subsequent replay of his calls they learnt about the cell in which BiH citizen Adis Medunjanin was placed.

“That was how a terrorist attack on the New York subway was prevented and thanks to that, the group was arrested and convicted together with Medunjanin, as claimed by the NSA director,” explains Galijašević.

The 9/11 report that was made in 2004 in over 500 pages and adopted by the US Congress mentioned Bosnia and Herzegovina only twice, stating that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar participated for some time in the Bosnian war and that the US had had intelligence about it.

“We learnt from the NSA press conference on Thursday that the Americans had known about the role of [wartime Bosnian president] Izetbegović’s nomenclature and the Mujahideen and terrorists the whole time,” stated Galijašević.

In less political Bosnian-Muslim-arrest news, a chap in Vermont turns out to have — gasp — lied on his U.S. entry application:

Bosnian in Vermont accused of lying about war crimes (Burlington Free Press, July 26, 2013, By Mike Donoghue)

An immigrant living in Burlington is facing federal charges for lying to immigration authorities by denying involvement in war crimes during the conflict in Bosnia….

Edin Sakoc, 54, committed war crimes against a civilian Bosnian Serb family 21 years ago, according to the two-count indictment unsealed Friday.

Sakoc, a Bosnian Muslim, is accused of raping a Serb woman in July 1992, aiding in the killing of two elderly people she was caring for and burning down the house they were staying in, court records show.

The three victims, after their home was destroyed by military fire, moved to live in the house of a nearby Bosnian Croat family in July 1992.

Sakoc and an unnamed co-conspirator removed one of the victims from the home against her will, the indictment said. It said Sakoc then assaulted and raped her before taking her to the Dretelji prison camp.

Later that night or early the next morning Sakoc and the co-conspirator returned to the home for the other two victims. The indictment said once inside, the co-conspirator, “aided and abetted by Sakoc, shot and killed Victim-2 and victim-3.”

Sakoc and the co-conspirator then burned down the home and also took the bodies outside to burn them, the indictment said.

Authorities say Sakoc lied when he applied for refugee status in March 2001 and for permanent residence in the United States by denying any past crimes or persecution…He became a permanent legal resident about March 2004 after filing more paperwork, including answers denying any past crimes.

Sakoc applied in the district of Vermont to become a naturalized citizen of the United States in February 2007, the indictment said. He was required to file various forms and swear to their accuracy.

Sakoc became a naturalized citizen of the United States in September 2007.

If Sakoc is convicted on either criminal charge, he is subject to having his naturalization revoked, according to the indictment. […]

The item above illustrates a point made here repeatedly, starting with the killing spree in Salt Lake City by Sulejman Talovic, whose father too lied on his immigration application: How many more of these “innocent refugees” do we have here, who have lied about their war records? Separately, I love how people get to be “refugees” from wars they started.

An update to the story appears below, with thanks to Liz (who also found that according to the indictment, the unnamed co-conspirator who helped the Muslim rape, kill and burn three Christian-Orthodox women was a Croat).

Bosnian immigrant charged with lying about alleged war crimes (NBC News, July 26, 2013)

A naturalized U.S. citizen living in Vermont pleaded not guilty Friday to charges that he lied on his citizenship application about gruesome war crimes he is accused of having committed 21 years ago during the Bosnian war.

The grand jury indictment, which was unsealed Friday in U.S. District Court in Burlington, alleges that Sakoc, a Bosnian Muslim, kidnapped and raped a Bosnian Serb woman and abetted the killings her mother and aunt in July 1992 — only three months into what would become a 3½-year bloodbath….

That’s not what he’s charged with, however. The indictment formally charges him with two counts of failing to disclose the alleged crimes….

The Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence from Yugoslavia in March 1992. The next month, armed conflict broke out between Bosnian Serbs and a loose coalition of Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats. The conflict spread to other former Yugoslav republics… [Notice here the MSM-uncharacteristic presentation of the chronology: Rather than writing of “Serbia” or “Slobodan Milosevic” ’setting off’ three wars, the first thing to have happened was BiH declaring independence. At which point armed conflict “broke out.” That is, the sentence is missing a clearly identified instigating culprit for a subject. Could this mean that, as Western journalists learn more about the wars they covered 20 years ago, they’re being belatedly…cautious…in how they word things?]

…Sakoc assaulted and raped the woman and took her to Dretelj, a nearby prison camp where Bosnian Serbs were tortured or killed during the war, it says. A few hours later, Sakoc and his partner returned to the home, where the unnamed second person shot and killed the woman’s mother and aunt, the indictment alleges. They then burned the women’s bodies and torched the house, it says.


An Examiner company blogger, Jim Kouri (”Law Enforcement Examiner”) noticed the story, and — though it’s not the first time these independent ‘examiners’ have impressed on the Balkans — used some surprisingly strong victim language not usually associated with Serbs. Note also the un-minced declarative sentence under the photo (which at the URL appears when you click on an arrow in the picture):

American Muslim discovered to be wanted war criminal (The Examiner, July 27)

The United States actually supported Muslim terrorists who fought the Serbs in Bosnia.

…his participation in the persecution of Bosnian Serbs during the conflict in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

The federal indictment alleges that in July 1992 Sakoc abducted, kidnapped, tortured and raped a Bosnian Serb woman and aided and abetted the brutal killing the rape victim’s elderly mother and aunt.

“While President Bill Clinton’s administration and his media sycophants painted the Serbian military as war criminals and supported the Croat and Muslim sides in the conflict, we later discovered the Muslims were as brutal and merciless as — if not more brutal and merciless than — the Serbs,” said crime and terrorism analyst Bradley Schreiber.

[Mr. Schreiber, where’ve you been? Please speak up a bit more often.]

The suspect also allegedly aided and abetted arsonists involved in torching the victims’ family home.

The Prosecutor’s Office of Bosnia and Herzegovina assisted the federal investigators in locating and capturing a man they claim is a ruthless war criminal. The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Human Rights Violators and War Crimes Center also assisted the FBI in this investigation.

And STILL this is how much Americans know about their intervention in Bosnia:

“…the civil war in the former Yugoslavia, now known as Bosnia-Herzegovina.”

Did you know that the former Yugoslavia is now known as Bosnia-Herzegovina?

Good thing we have Roanoke Times reporter Laurence Hammack to explain that to us. Apparently, not a single of his editors or copy editors saw anything wrong with that sentence either.

Of course, that’s not the main point of the item, which was circulated by 1389 Blog. This guy is:

Almaz Nezirovic

Roanoke Co. resident faces extradition on war crimes allegations (July 18)
By Laurence Hammack

A former Bosnian prison camp guard now living in Roanoke County was led in handcuffs to a federal courtroom Tuesday, where he was told he faces extradition to his native country on charges of committing war crimes.

Almaz Nezirovic was ordered held without bond during a brief hearing in U.S. District Court in Roanoke.

Court papers unsealed late in the day accuse Nezirovic of torturing Serbian civilians who were sent to a prison camp during the civil war in the former Yugoslavia, now known as Bosnia-Herzegovina.

The prisoners were beaten with rifles and batons, starved, ordered to crawl naked on the ground and forced to eat grass soaked with urine, a seven-page complaint charges.

“In these and other ways, the Fugitive participated in torturing and inflicting cruel, inhumane and humiliating treatment on multiple prisoners at the Rabic camp,” the complaint states.

Nezirovic — who had been living quietly as a welder and soccer coach in Roanoke County since immigrating to the United States about 15 years ago — appeared stunned and defiant during his hearing.

“I was very surprised,” he told Magistrate Judge Robert Ballou in broken English.

(Of course he was! Since when did Serb-torture become a prosecutable offense?)

Wearing a yellow T-shirt and shorts, his long, dark hair tied back in a ponytail, he turned several times to make eye contact with about a dozen family members and friends sitting in the courtroom.

“We love you,” a woman called out as he was led away.

Although the charges against him were filed in 2003 by authorities in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Nezirovic had more recently been facing separate but related federal charges in Roanoke.

In June 2011, he was charged with lying on an application for U.S. citizenship and making a false statement during a naturalization interview. [We know that’s a problem — see father of Trolley Square shooter Sulejman Talovic.]

Federal prosecutors said at the time that Nezirovic, 53, indicated on the applications that he had never committed acts for which he could be charged criminally — such as the alleged abuse of prisoners at the war camp.

After his indictment, Nezirovic was allowed to remain free on bond. He had been living in his Roanoke County home without incident until his arrest Tuesday morning on an extradition warrant.

Notice how when a non-Serb is arrested in a Western country for war crimes, he doesn’t have to sit in jail while the extradition decision runs its course. In contrast, our most recent example is Alex Cvetkovic, whom Israel was mandated by Sarajevo to keep in jail from the tie of his arrest in January 2011. Naturally, Israel complied. (Since when Bosnia says Jump, every country jumps.)

…In 2004, one year after Nezirovic was charged by the government of Bosnia-Herzegovina with war crimes, U.S. officials refused to extradite him, according to his attorney, public defender Fay Spence.

The more recent extradition efforts apparently came after the Bosnia-Herzegovina government presented additional information to the U.S. State Department.

Nezirovic denies the charges, Spence has written in court documents.

The allegations against Nezirovic are politically motivated and stem from lingering tensions between ethnic and religious groups in the war-torn country, Spence maintains.

As we know, any time a non-Serb is wanted for killing or torturing Serbs, the charges are always “politically motivated” or “ethnically motivated.”

During his country’s civil war in the 1990s, Nezirovic was a member of the Croatian Defense Council military force and worked in the Rabic prison camp that held Serb civilians.

As a Bozniak Muslim, Nezirovic wanted no part of the three-way fighting among Serbs, Croatians and Muslims, Spence has written in court documents. But when his homeland of Derventa was invaded by Serb nationalists, Nezirovic said he joined a Croatian paramilitary group as an act of self-defense.

And it’s always “an act of self-defense” because Bosniaks, Croats and Albanians can never seem to remember who insisted on war, and so the Serb side is always by definition the aggressor. Then just put in the requisite word “nationalist” after the word “Serb,” and you definitely won’t get any questions about whether there was anything specific that the Serbs were fighting against.

“At no time did Nezirovic detain or mistreat civilians, nor did he mistreat combatant prisoners at the Rabic camp,” a motion filed on his behalf stated.

Well a couple of witnesses would beg to disagree: Former prisoners receive permission to testify at trial (March 22)

By Laurence Hammack

…U.S. District Court Judge James Turk ruled this week that testimony from the former prisoners can be taken by live video, despite arguments from Almaz Nezirovic’s attorney that such an arrangement would violate his right to a fair trial.

When Nezirovic goes on trial in July, he will argue that the people he is accused of abusing are affiliated with a Bosnian Serb militia group and have political motivations to falsely incriminate him.

And that is why it is so important to hear from them in person, Spence argued in a motion opposing their videoconference testimony,

“Live testimony, i.e. perspiration on the brow or the smell of sweat, cannot be transmitted through cables — no television can replace the ability to pick up on slight body language,” Spence wrote.

“The jury will not hear the witness shift in his chair when asked a difficult question. The jury will not see the subtle indicators bearing on credibility that we all rely upon in making judgments about people in our daily lives.”

Well now there’s something that you haven’t heard in a while if you’ve been following trials not in the U.S. but at The Hague, formed to convict Serbs. There, the Serbs get convicted by witness testimony that doesn’t even get beamed in like this. Sometimes it’s just written down on a piece of paper. This lawyer seems to have a sense of democratic standards in the judicial process, so one wonders if he’d give a darn if he knew what went on at the international court that’s a precursor for the rest of us.

Federal prosecutors say the two witnesses have health problems that would make it difficult for them to travel from Bosnia-Herzegovina to the United States to testify.

In an order this week, Turk rejected the defense argument that video testimony would deny Nezirovic his right to confront witnesses against him, as guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment.

“This right, however, does not guarantee criminal defendants the absolute right to a face-to-face meeting,” Turk wrote. The judge ruled there were legitimate reasons for a videoconference, and that the high-tech process would allow the defense to adequately confront the witnesses.

Since his arrest last June, Nezirovic has remained free on bond at his southwest Roanoke County home, where for the past decade he has lived quietly as a welder and soccer coach.

On Valentine’s Day, Salt Lake Tribune revisited the 2007 Valentine’s week massacre. And guess where the article starts in laying the foundation for the crime. It doesn’t blame the American victims, but neither does it blame the Bosniak perpetrator. It blames people who weren’t even there: Serbs, of course. This is five years after they’d tried it in 2007, when they (and other newspaper clones) at least waited until mid-article to fetch so far and lay blame where it’s politically and physically safe:

‘Shame and sorrow’ still mar life for Trolley Square killer’s father

Talovici, Bosnia-Herzegovina — Only a few families live in this village two decades after its homes were blasted to rubble by the Bosnian Serb army.

The remains of a mass grave are visible along the road, and, up a steep hill from his childhood home, Sulejman Talovic’s body is buried in a family cemetery.

It’s a landscape that Suljo Talovic, the father of the Trolley Square killer, longs for, even as he, his wife and four daughters live an hour away in another town, where he can find intermittent work.

Talovici and its bleak reminders, he said, would suit his life of “shame and sorrow.”

Five years later, the horror inflicted in Salt Lake City by his 18-year-old son continues to shadow Talovic. He has never learned his son’s motive. The FBI and Salt Lake City Police Department issued final reports a year after the massacre, but the answers weren’t there.

Here the man is, just waiting for the FBI to tell him what he already knows — jihad — but our government will give him no satisfaction.

“Only God knows why he did that, but if I could bring back my son and the five people he killed by burying myself alive, I would gladly do it,” said Talovic, 47, his shoulders hunched and eyes filled with tears.

“I keep replaying in my eyes the sadness, the tragedy of the parents of the 15-year-old girl he had killed,” Talovic said, speaking of Kirsten Hinckley, one of the people shot by Sulejman Talovic before police shot him dead.

“We carry on our soul the lost lives of the five people [Sulejman] killed in America.”

One certainly appreciates the man’s uncharacteristic-for-Muslims remorse, but at the same time one must address the family’s typical ’shocked’ reaction to their boy’s actions: I think that if my family and I were Muslim, by now I’d at least partially expect that people around me might start dying, possibly at the hands of at least one relative — especially if, on top of it, I had a problematic son. Further, maybe if Suljo Sr. weren’t fooling himself into believing the “Serbs started it” fiction that Bosnian and Western leaders spawned, he might have had a more objective view o his Bosniak family and expected some signs of aggression, especially given that he himself had been a fighter in the war. But back to blaming the Serbs:

The Talovic family had seen much suffering even before moving to Salt Lake City. They fled Talovici in 1993 as invading Bosnian Serb forces “cleansed’’ eastern and northern Bosnia of Muslims and Croats. The Talovics are Muslim; they and their neighbors hid in the hills and went without food for days at a time. [Here The Tribune neglects to mention that the men weren’t exactly “hiding” in the hills.]

The family, which had already lost an infant son, saw their baby girl die for lack of medicine during the war. They emigrated to Utah in 1998 because other family members had settled there.

Neighbors described them as a generous, devout family, even as they regarded the oldest child, Sulejman, as a loner.

Now wait a second. This is the first we’re hearing that the family was “devout.” In all the 2007 coverage and the 2008 follow-ups at the conclusion of the “inconclusive” investigation, no one ever mentioned that the family were devout. In fact, at the height of the coverage in 2007, the opposite impression was given. As we know, the more pious a Muslim family, the more likelihood for violence.

In the weeks after his son’s rampage, Suljo Talovic thanked Salt Lake City residents for their compassion; donations helped the family travel home to Bosnia to bury their son.

Indeed, at his son’s funeral in Talovici a month after the Trolley Square shootings, Suljo Talovic said he was so touched by Utahns’ support that he would never leave Salt Lake City.

Shame, grief and the never-ending public spotlight, however, led the family to move back to Bosnia in the spring of 2008. […]

So again, the article was written with the perpetrator counted among the victims; the only people mentioned in absolute terms, without sympathy or shades of gray, are Serbs — who weren’t even involved in the story. They’ve again been brought in so as to have an unequivocal villain at whom to direct any outrage. And never mind that Talovic relatives admitted at the time that toddler Talovic was too young during the war and exhibited no scars. (And never mind forensic psychiatrist Michael Welner’s expert assessment.)

One also has to ask: How often after a mass shooting are the parents of the shooter checked in on five years later, to see how they’re doing and generate sympathy for the family of the offender? Off-hand, I can’t think of any. But then, we’re dealing with a Privileged Class in America and the West in general, Muslims. At least this Muslim family had enough shame to leave the country. The same can’t be said of Salt Lake Tribune. I believe the word I used for newspapers like The Tribune and Deseret News is fanaticism.

There were three notable comments at the bottom of the article:

by freewill2:

He does [know] his sons motive, dont even believe this guy’s sob story. Suljo is a Bosnian mojahadine fighter, which is anti-american, and his son Sulejman was shouting Allahu Akhar, which is a traditional Jihadist cry of war and Martydom. Sulejman often attended friday prayers at the All Noor Mosque about a block from the shootings. Suljeman was also Rumored to be in the KKK and had a Nazi Swastika tattoo and later cut it off himself. And there is a whole lot more to this story than what is being told, Just stay alert people and dont let your guard down. one thing they are right about. There is sleeper cells amongst us.

by paxsierra:

“Shame, grief and the never-ending public spotlight, however, led the family to move back to Bosnia in the spring of 2008.”

Good God. So the poor guy flees SLC because of the never-ending public spotlight…and now you’ve tracked him down in Bosnia. Way to go, Trib. Way to go.

Crap like this makes me ashamed to be a member of the media myself.

by utecougar:

Why is this on page A1? First we re-live our 10-year-old Olympic glory, now we wallow in our 5-year-old tragedy. Isn’t there any news?

And the three comments below were notable for the totality of the brainwashing that their authors have happily absorbed:

by bhayward:

Thanks Tribune. Excellent story. I feel sorry for that man. He doesn’t understand; we don’t understand. That was an extremely sad day for everyone. The victims are resting in peace; and I wish this father can find peace.

by laytonian:

Such sorrow crosses the world. There’s no answers for what happened, but the horrors seen by Sulejman Talovic may have evolved into PTSD as he grew up.The shame of his parents caused them to leave their safe haven in Utah.

Maybe our community needs to look at how we embrace others, of different ethnicities, religions, and languages. Look at how young people are treated in schools, if they are different.
AND most importantly, find ways to support mental health issues.

(We already do support Islam.)

by mugsyg:

It is impossible for me to not feel a strong sense of compassion for the Talovic family. We, who live here, have absolutely NO idea of the horrors families like this go through in their home countries. Then the horror continues when the are almost forced to live elsewhere in the world where they obviously feel ‘different’. We then make it hard for many of these people to feel comfortable. Then, due most likely to mental disorder because of memories and being treated differently, a child goes off the deep end. We blame it all on them, of course, because Americans are so perfect… right? Then the media relentlessly hounds the family into feeling forced to move back to the place where the horrors all began. And now… they can’t even let them alone from thousands of miles away. What must this family, and other families like them, do to find peace? Must we perfect Americans continue to destroy the lives of others for nothing more than our own self-gratification and monetary benefit? We are, in many ways, an absolutely horrid lot.

Yes, I read the story… because it is here and printed. It does re-address my feelings of compassion for the Talovics. BUT… if the story wasn’t here… and wasn’t printed I wouldn’t have missed it or felt a longing to be nosy about how the family is doing. AND the Talovics wouldn’t be feeling invaded about this subject once again. THAT should be the most important thing we could do for them. But alas, the media just can’t allow people to get on with their lives.

The following item caught my eye in a newsletter sent out by Libertas, the Los Angeles-based group that runs the conservative-minded Liberty Film Festival along with the online Libertas Film Magazine:

And here are a few Libertas posts from this week for your reading enjoyment:

David Ross’ witty review of Matt Damon’s “We Bought A Zoo”. Joe Bendel’s compelling reviews of official submissions for the Best Foreign Language Film Oscar: Italy’s Oscar submission “Terraferma” and Serbia’s Oscar submission “Montevideo.”

I was happy to see something Serbian mentioned in America in a positive and creative — non-political — context. Nonetheless, I braced myself for the inevitable which, in an otherwise nice review, came in the form of the following sentence:

Still, given recent history in the Balkans, the occasional flash of nationalism remains a little scary, as when the crowd spontaneously bursts into the Serbian anthem after a pivotal game.

It’s not as bad as what we’re used to, but it was still enough to tick me off, and so I left the following comment (still awaiting approval since last night):

God forbid that Serbs should sing their national anthem after a game, or in any other context. Lord knows we don’t sing our national anthem, much less at sports events, right? What was billed to gullible Western audiences by the 1990s pro-Muslim media as “nationalism” was self-defense against a jihad and worse. It’s a bit past time that at least conservatives figured that much out. You should also stop confusing identity with nationalism. That confusion has made it easy to smear those still fighting the David-and-Goliath battle for Christian Kosovo…as “nationalists” or “pro-nationalists.” The same thing being done to those still trying to hold onto Jerusalem. It’s a parallel situation, and my fellow Jews would have been wise to pay a little more attention to the world’s coordinated effort to strip the Serbian identity while doing Islamic bidding in the Balkans.

But one certainly isn’t surprised to see yet another American with scant knowledge of the Balkans — rather, with exclusively the propagandized “knowledge” that we swallowed whole by a media which conservatives otherwise don’t trust — unable to bring himself to write a positive piece concerning Serbia without injecting the obligatory, ubiquitous mention of that mythical menace of “serbianationalism.” The threat just keeps us all awake at night, don’t it? Unlike the Serbs’ Bosnian and Albanian tormentors, who have long since moved on to Western targets. (Or did the folks at Libertas not hear about the Kosovo-born Albanian who shot 5 American servicemen in Frankfurt in March, killing two? Or the Bosnian Muslim who shot at the U.S. embassy in Sarajevo a couple months ago? How about the Albanians and Bosnians involved in Daniel Boyd’s North Carolina Eight? Or the four Albanian Muslims who were part of the 2007 Ft. Dix plot “to kill as many American soldiers as possible”? Might Sulejman Talovic be a familiar name to a conservative outfit like this? Of course not. They’re hawks except, as always, when the Balkans are concerned. But that’s the Bosnian Muslim teenager who shot nine Americans for Valentine’s Day in 2007, killing 5. Now tell me how many Christian Serb ‘nationalists’ have targeted Americans since we bombed them back to the stone age? Even in retaliation. So far zero.)

If serbianationalism is/was disturbing, good god what shall we call the Croatians who by 1991 had renamed their streets for Croatian Nazis, re-appointed the still living ones to government and military posts, revived their Nazi-era currency and flag, started selling swastikas on the streets, unilaterally seceded and told the Serbs living there for four centuries that they were suddenly citizens of Croatia and not Yugoslavia, with an official second-class constitutional status? (The Croatian-Nazi regime, by the way, was called “Ustasha,” and this is probably the first time Libertas is hearing it.) Sorry, but without an army they would have been killed overnight as they were in WWII; instead, they were just ethnically cleansed. But apparently that’s not nationalist. Nor, it seems, is our ally the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), which during its war for ethnic purification was cutting throats of Serbs, Roma, Montenegrins, Croats and Albanian “collaborators” (e.g. federal postal workers) in Kosovo before Belgrade finally came in to root them out, which we called “racism, nationalism, butchery, ethnic cleansing and genocide.” Just wait ’til it starts happening all around us here. And if and when Washington grudgingly responds, maybe Russia can get all of NATO to bomb our asses after a carefully crafted media campaign that Washington was the aggressor.

Three relevant quotes for you:

NYT, July 12, 1982 —

“The nationalists have a two-point platform,” according to Becir Hoti, an executive secretary of the Communist Party of Kosovo, “first to establish what they call an ethnically clean Albanian republic and then the merger with Albania to form a greater Albania.” Mr. Hoti, an Albanian, expressed concern over political pressures that were forcing Serbs to leave Kosovo…The migration of Serbs is no ordinary problem because Kosovo is the heartland of Serbian history, culture and religion.

NYT, Nov. 9, 1982 —

[A] young Albanian had splashed gasoline in the face of a 12-year-old Serbian boy and ignited it with a match…Such incidents have prompted many of Kosovo’s Slavic inhabitants to flee the province, thereby helping to fulfill a nationalist demand for an ethnically “pure” Albanian Kosovo.

NYT, Nov. 28, 1982 —

In violence growing out of the Pristina University riots of March 1981, a score of people have been killed and hundreds injured. There have been almost weekly incidents of rape, arson, pillage and industrial sabotage, most seemingly designed to drive Kosovo’s remaining indigenous Slavs — Serbs and Montenegrins — out of the province.

And yes, The NY Times was careful to not dredge up its own 1980s articles when it came time to support Clinton’s war.

Joe, if you ever decide it’s important to think fairly about the Former Yugoslavia, peruse my blog, even minimally. If not, no worries. It’s a rare American soul who figures out that the whole thing was a giant inversion of facts, villains, victims, and chronology.

Perhaps for the first time, Serbs have made themselves heard to the American entertainment industry. Last week, late-night comedian Chelsea Handler and her guest comics joined the 20-year Serb-bash when Belgrade came up in entertainment news.

A doped-up Amy Winehouse wasn’t able to finish her kickoff performance in Belgrade — or “Athens,” as she called it — and Serbs were vocal in their disappointment. Although the “Chelsea Lately” segment started out making fun of Winehouse, when the opportunity to instead make fun of Serbs presented itself, the comics rushed to her defense. That is, a target of ridicule becomes something to protect if it is similarly targeted by Serbs — who aren’t allowed in on the fun, much less allowed to have any standards. And so the comics turned their sights on Serbia with the following antics:

Paraphrasing now, since the English-language versions of the video have been taken down:

Guest comic Chris Franjola, in response to Chelsea saying this meant that someone was backstage pushing the half-conscious singer onto the stage, saying “Go, you’re ready!”: Well, it’s Serbia; there aren’t any rules.

Chelsea: I can’t believe they allow Serbians to go to concerts; I didn’t know that was going on over there.

Guest comic Greg Proops: Serbia’s had ethnic cleansing and genocide, and this concert was a bigger disaster than that. Where is she going next? Kazakistan? (He meant Kazakhstan — and no one corrected him.)

Chelsea: Serbian Defense Minister Dragan Sutanovac (she said Dragon Sutanovac), on his Facebook page (ironic wink to the camera over the fact that even people named Dragon have Facebook pages — or, more specifically, that obscure ‘war-criminal types’ do), wrote that the concert was a shame and a disappointment. Guess what. So is your country.

Chris Franjola: Dragon Sutanovac, wasn’t that the guy who fought Rocky?

Chelsea: Yeah, Dragon is a very popular Bolshevik name.

And normally, that would be the end of it. “Since it is Serbia and the Serbian people, it is allowed to pass without comment,” wrote Filip Filipi, the proprietor of the Facebook page that’s calling for a boycott of the show and an apology from the network.

But this time something unusual happened. The Serbs — a people as ignored as they are reviled — made themselves heard. The controversy even got to Hollywood Reporter:

Chelsea Handler in Hot Water With Serbians Over Remarks by Charlie Amter

A Facebook page is calling for a boycott of the E! host after she joked the Balkan country is a “disappointment.”

At least one of the comics on the show seems to have noticed the bubbling Balkan outrage. Comedian Greg Proops took to Twitter to say he was sorry earlier this week.

“Dear Serbia, they were jokes. Please accept my apology,” he said. […]

Again, this is unprecedented. Not only would a headline about anyone being “…In Hot Water with Serbians” usually be a cause for dismissive laughter, but the so-far lone apology from Proops — assuming it’s not entirely sarcastic — elevates Serbs to a higher level of subhumanity than the world previously allowed them.

While I’m glad about this development, I’m embarrassed to say that by comedy standards, this was some pretty funny shit. IF you don’t know any better. Which is the case for at least 99.99% of the American public and the comedians who bring them their news.

So if you can imagine, I’m going to ask Serbs to not take the remarks by “Chelsea Lately” too personally. Consider that, to prepare for the show, the comedians did their due diligence and googled Serbia for 15 seconds. So these jokes were actually “researched.” The problem is that the research rests on a mistaken premise that’s been 15 years in the debunking — but to a comedian it’s all new information. They’re only just hearing the word “Serbia” and absorbing the official narrative — the old “facts” — so it’s going to take them a bit longer than the rest of us to even begin to figure out that Serbia’s reputation — and everything that came up on their Google search — is based on a concerted fraud.

And these, I can assure you from clocking hundreds of hours in comedy clubs, are the “intelligent” comedians. So one must lower one’s standards when listening to comedy. And again, not take anything personally. Because the next day they’ll be on to the next country or other subject of ridicule, and in three weeks if you say the word “Serbia” to them, they’ll again have no idea what you’re talking about; they’ll think you’re asking them about Romania or Syria.

Recall how a few years ago Kazakhstan was up in arms because Sasha “Borat” Cohen made a farce of it. But the Kazakh president’s daughter came to Borat’s defense:

Dariga, one of the three daughters of President Nursultan Nazarbayev, said Kazakhstan’s furious reaction to Cohen’s alter-ego Borat character hurt the nation’s image a lot more than the jokes themselves. “This Web site ( damaged our image much less than its closure which was covered by all global news agencies. We should not be afraid of humor and we shouldn’t try to control everything, I think.”

Incidentally, the fact that Proops couldn’t pronounce Kazakhstan and that none of the other comedians corrected him is an additional embarrassment, since that’s one obscure country whose name they should be familiar with, given that another comedian introduced them to its existence. On which point: Really, Proops, couldn’t you have made a more original suggestion for what country Winehouse might move on to next? Why not Nauru, Burkina Faso, Maldives, Palau, Vanuatu, or Guinea Bissau — the heavyweights that have recognized the most current anti-Serbian secessionists in Kosovo (those are called Albanians, by the way. In case you missed Bill Clinton’s war after voting for him twice.) And, Chelsea — really? Dragan a popular Bolshevik name? Have you ever heard of a Russian Dragan?

But who am I asking? To Americans — especially Comedian-Americans — knowing the difference between a Serb and a Russian is like knowing the difference between a Yorkie and a Silky terrier. It’s splitting hairs. Americans don’t deign to know about other countries, and I’m embarrassed to admit I’m not much of an exception. I happen to know something about the Balkans only because the soul of my own country was irreparably damaged by what we wrought there. But in general, listening to these comics banter about Serbia makes me realize what an idiot I must sound like when I do just enough research on a topic to substantiate a joke. Of course, I try to have the joke at least cut to some kind of truth, whereas the only available ‘truth’ on the Balkans is inverted. And so there won’t be many Balkans jokes that cut to the truth.

I’m sure that Handler, Proops and Franjola — who otherwise seem like nice people (to the extent that comics can be mistaken for people) — had no idea of the callousness they were reinforcing by piling more of the usual onto a people whom, in practicality and in principle, it’s not illegal to kill.

Nor would they know about the past 10 years that the Serbian public has been sweating to change its undeserved ‘monster’ image — spawned in the Croatian and Bosnian ministries of information, polished at American and Canadian PR firms, commissioned by the State Department, imported by Congress, cemented in the media and swallowed by the public. Then revived every time the Serbs fulfill the next international demand, such as arrest Ratko Mladic. To change what we said they are, Serbia has been undergoing a national lobotomy which the LA Times, for example, finally took note of this month (albeit with some predictable approval) in an article about Novak Djokovic titled “Tennis star may bring shine back to Serbia’s tarnished reputation” :

[There are] Serbs who recoil from even mild expressions of patriotic or nationalist feeling. New Serbia isn’t fully at ease with itself. The sight of Djokovic’s rowdy fans draped in the Serbian flag in the bleachers is enough to unsettle some Serbs, even though supporters of players from other countries do exactly the same thing without comment. No one criticizes fans of Roger Federer, who beat Djokovic in the French Open semifinal, for waving the Swiss colors. Then again, Swiss fans don’t get into brawls…[Djokovic] sidestepped questions here in Paris about Mladic’s arrest, saying sports and politics don’t mix….

(Is it any surprise that Djokovic lost the French Open that day after being distracted by reporters’ questions about his “criminal people”? Which other athletes regularly get weighty political questions thrown at them before an important sports match?)

So Serbs can’t do anything positive (have a tennis champ like other countries do), and they can’t do anything negative (criticize Amy Winehouse like everyone else does). But these comedians would have no way of knowing that Serbia can’t so much as go to the bathroom without asking us first. Indeed, Handler actually hit on something poignant when she expressed surprise that Serbs were allowed concerts. In case she thought this was hyperbole, it wasn’t by much. In 2008, the year that the Albanians unilaterally declared Kosovo theirs (that’s Serbia’s Jerusalem), and the West flouted international law to support it, “Kiss” legend Gene Simmons apparently was of the opinion that Serbs do not, in fact, deserve concerts — and canceled his Belgrade stop. As I blogged last month:

In other words, when the Serbian public voted in the pro-Western quislings we wanted them to, and the country was rewarded with a Western-supported land theft in Kosovo, Kiss too felt that Belgrade needed to be punished for being punished. So because 15% of its land was stolen, Serbia didn’t deserve a concert.

Serbian ambassador Vladimir Petrovic, in his letter of protest to E! executive Bonnie Hammer over the “Chelsea Lately” segment wrote:

It is puzzling to us how Handler could make these assertions, even in jest. Handler may be surprised to learn that Serbia is democratic country. Its people enjoy immense freedoms…We urge Handler and her producers to revisit her list of “topics that cross the line” and add her slurs against Serbia and its people to it. We also urge her to think of causes dear to her heart, such as equality. Her superior tone and statements run afoul of her honorable efforts towards achieving true equality – be it between individuals, communities, or nations…

Surely by now Mr. Petrovic understands that equality applies to everyone but Serbs. They’re the perpetual exception, the politically correct whipping boy, to be brought out for any and all such occasions. And otherwise, they’re not much thought of.

Serbs must keep in mind their utility to the West, the important purpose they serve for us: Security. After all, no one is going to bomb your network for making fun of Serbs — it’s safe. And if there’s one thing that today’s comedians know how to do, it’s play it safe. Comics are no less gutless than media, politicians, courts, law enforcement, military bureaucrats, film and TV people, and most of the public, so while not making a target (even for humor) of truly dangerous people, who are also actively striving to impose their way of life on democratic societies everywhere, comics relish having a non-Muslim target. Refreshingly, a promo for Hank Azaria’s new show diversified things a bit from the favorite Serbian punching bag by pulling another harmless nationality and risk-free ethnic target out of its ass with a line about a shirt making him look like an “Armenian gangster.” Definitely safer than, say, “Turkish gangster,” or the most abundant and notorious gangsters that are confounding law enforcement and terrorizing Europe (not to mention enslaving girls across Europe): Albanian. Or how about the criminals of Croatia, whose police cover up abductions of petite Western blonds. Or why not any of the Bosnian gangsters who, like Albanian ones, double as government officials? Too scary? Too Muslim? (Hint to comics and TV/film people: Croats are Catholic, so you can start with those.)

My fellow comics, be honest: How much safer do you feel now that Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic are behind bars and Slobodan Milosevic is dead? Yeah, it wasn’t exactly keeping me awake nights either. Their “victims,” on the other hand…well we can add them to the War on Terror’s to-do list.

But let the “Chelsea Lately” incident serve as a reminder to Serbs that no matter what you do, no matter how much of your collective soul you’re willing to sell and how much identity you discard in order to join the club (the “international community,” EU membership, etc.) — in the end you’ll still be “those genocidal Serbs.”


Reader Jovan informs me that a tenacious and timeless antagonist of the Serbs, Marko Attila Hoare, has used the “Chelsea Lately” incident to suddenly speak up in defense of Serbs. No doubt sensing he is on the radar of a few Serb-defenders, this Hoare is “trying to pull a Chuck Sudetic — sticking up for Serbs when it’s convenient [and easy], just so he can later use it to claim that he is objective,” Jovan posits correctly. Jovan adds, “It really pisses me off having this arrogant asshole acting like he actually cares about Serbs and Serbia. He needs to stay on his side of the fence! We do not need, nor do we want, his help or sympathy.”

Thanks, WikiLeaks!

Muslims with war records watched (Dec. 20)

Detailed reports on potential terrorist activity in New Zealand included warnings from police to United States officials that some local Muslims fought in wars such as Afghanistan and Bosnia, WikiLeaks cables show.

The warnings, in cables from 2005, showed the US embassy’s emergency action committee in Wellington had no information to indicate a terrorist cell was operating in New Zealand.

But it said police were investigating several individuals in a cable that noted there were about 50,000 Muslims in New Zealand, including 708 Maori converts.

“The New Zealand Police recently provided information indicating some New Zealand Muslims have fought in Afghanistan, Bosnia and possibly Chechnya,” the cable said.

Most investigations did not involve law enforcement agencies because there had been no indication of criminal behaviour. […]

I wonder, if we’d considered Bosnia war veterans to be a red flag, whether Sulejman Talovic would have gotten to leisurely prepare for his 2007 Salt Lake City massacre as he did. Oh never mind — Dad lied about his war record on his citizenship application. Like so many other Bosnian-Muslim families living here now. I guess it won’t help.

I’ve been meaning to bring up something that was reawakened by a recent verdict at a Serbian war crimes trial. What most people are kept ignorant of is that the first shots of the Bosnian war were fired upon a retreating convoy of Yugoslav troops from Bosnia. As they were retreating, per the agreement between Belgrade and Sarajevo, the multi-ethnic soldiers of the JNA (Yugoslav National Army) were fired upon by the Muslims. It was a massacre, triggering the bloody war. That was the shot heard ’round the world if, of course, if you don’t count the Bosnian Muslim who in March 1992 killed the father of the groom in a Serbian wedding party in Sarajevo.

In a mainstream news source reporting on the verdict (AP), I was surprised to see the writer actually deign to consider the real chronology of the start of the war — rather than defer to the usual “Milosevic, the man who started three wars in the Balkans….”:

Bosnian jailed in Serbia for war crimes

BELGRADE, Serbia — A Serbian court on Monday convicted a wartime Bosnian security officer of ordering a 1992 attack on a Yugoslav army convoy that killed at least 50 soldiers, and sentenced him to 12 years in prison. The trial of [Bosnian Croat] Ilija Jurisic at the Serbian war crimes court has strained relations between Bosnia and Serbia. Bosnian officials had claimed the proceedings were staged and politically motivated and demanded his release.

Jurisic was found guilty of ordering the attack against the Serb-led army convoy consisting of dozens of army trucks carrying some 100 soldiers withdrawing from the predominantly Muslim Bosnian town of Tuzla in May 1992.

The court said in its verdict that the Bosnian troops first killed the truck drivers with sniper fire, and then fired mortars and rocket-propelled grenades at the idled vehicles. At least 44 army soldiers were also injured in the clash.

Bosnian authorities have maintained that the Yugoslav soldiers fired first during the pullout arranged between Belgrade and Sarajevo. They said the Bosnian troops acted in self-defense in one of the bloodiest clashes during the opening days of the 1992-95 Bosnian war.

The war in Bosnia started after the country’s Muslims and Croats voted to split from Serb-led Yugoslavia, triggering a rebellion by the Bosnian Serbs. The conflict — which saw Europe’s worst bloodshed since World War II — lasted until a U.S.-brokered peace deal was signed in 1995.

In January had a more detailed report on the security officer convicted above:

Massacre of Yugoslav Army Conscripts Approved by Sarajevo

On May 15, 1992, Bosnian Muslim paramilitary troops, aided by local officials, used snipers to ambush and attack [a] Yugoslav Army convoy while it was attempting to withdraw from the territory of then-Yugoslav republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina. As a result, up to 200 JNA conscripts were killed, 33 were wounded, 140 were imprisoned and tortured, many of whom were handed back to their loved ones in the body bags later on. For some, this atrocious war crime signaled [the] actual start of the Bosnian civil war (1992-1995).

At the trial of [Bosnian] Croat Ilija Jurišić, indicted for ordering the attack on the convoy of Yugoslav People’s Army (JNA) conscripts during their scheduled retreat from Tuzla in May 1992, Deputy Chief of Military Security at the time, Marko Novaković, who testified on January 16, said that the attack “never could have been carried out without the express approval of the Bosnian Muslim supreme command in Sarajevo.”

In a case known as the Tuzla Column massacre, [the] trial before the Belgrade District Court War Crimes Chamber [of] Ilija Jurišić continues to provide solid evidence that the cold-blooded massacre was ordered and coordinated at the very top of Bosnian Muslim leadership.

According to the indictment, [a] JNA convoy, consisting mainly of unarmed 18-year-old conscripts from all parts of former Yugoslavia and of all nationalities, who were serving in the unified country in various military polygons throughout state of Yugoslavia, obeyed a decision on [the] peaceful withdrawal of troops from the territory of Bosnia-Herzegovina, in order not to [exacerbate] with their presence a tense atmosphere at the time one segment of the population, Bosnian Muslims, demanded secession of the republic from Yugoslavia.

The JNA convoy that attempted to withdraw from the town of Tuzla was given guarantees by Muslim leadership that they will be allowed to retreat and provided a safe passage to Serbia through Bijeljina. Nevertheless, [the] convoy was ambushed and brutally attacked by the Bosnian Muslim paramilitary troops, with the help of local officials headed by Jurišić, at the very start of retreat…

Jurišić, who at the time was a member of the Bosnian Interior Ministry police reserves and a senior officer in the Public Security Service operational HQ, is accused of issuing a direct order to attack JNA convoy in retreat. On the basis of his orders, snipers in nearby buildings first shot and killed the drivers of the military vehicles, thus stopping the vehicles and blocking the way for the rest of the column. They then proceeded to target the conscripts in those vehicles, shooting and killing the young men who had not been equipped to fight or resist attack, the indictment states.

As the JNA conscripts were jumping out of the vehicles, they were being cut down by the snipers. [An] identical attack was also carried out against the visibly marked sanitation vehicles in the convoy.

Zoran Vukojević and Slobodan Radić, former reservists who survived the attack on the JNA column in Tuzla, testified that the convoy had been attacked after the second attempt to leave the army barracks. They confirmed that the drivers of the military and sanitation vehicles had come under fire first, and then everybody else in the convoy, as they were trying to to get away from the burning vehicles and find refuge in the nearby buildings. Witnesses claimed that explosions could be heard later.

Tatomir Krušić, a conscript who was wounded in the attack, testified that on the afternoon of May 15, 1992, when the JNA convoy had set off to leave Tuzla in Bosnia-Herzegovina, he had heard gunshots and seen that the driver of the truck he was in had been shot.

“The army convoy was coming under fire from all sides. Bora (the driver) was shot and I told everybody to get out of the truck. The four of us jumped out, and that’s when I was wounded,” Krušić recalled.

The brutal attack on the convoy of unarmed conscripts was being broadcast live on a local Bosnian Muslim television station, showing that the column was being shot at even from the Tuzla hospital building. Part of that footage, including abuse and murder of the conscripts by the Bosnian Muslims and Croats is shown in the documentary “Truth.” As the local Muslim television was showing the burning column of Yugoslav Army vehicles, the commentator in studio asks for [a] cold beer and then informs the viewers they ought to go and “help out” [with] one conscript he saw reaching the entrance of a nearby building, suggesting the wounded soldier should not be left alive.

Another survivor of the Tuzla Column atrocity described how one of his unarmed friends that was lightly wounded in the arm managed to hide in the entrance of a building, only to be handed over in a body bag six days later. Most of the 140 conscripts who were caught alive were subsequently abused, tortured and killed in the Bosnian Muslim and Croat camps.

President of Bijeljina’s Association of Missing, Imprisoned and Killed Bosnian Serb army members and civilians, Žarko Radić said it is impossible to tell how many of the conscripts killed in [the] Tuzla Column massacre have been buried in Spomen Kosturnica, [a] mass grave turned into [a] memorial after the civil war. He said there are cases where remains of several soldiers and civilians killed in [the] Tuzla column were placed in the same casket. It is believed that remains of at least 80 JNA conscripts killed in Tuzla are buried as “unknown persons” in Bijeljina alone.

Jurišić pleaded not guilty to the charges when the trial began on February 22. He was arrested upon the international arrest warrant on May 2007, at Belgrade airport Nikola Tesla, while attempting to escape to Cologne, Germany.

For a more general reminder of how it all started, here is Andy Wilcoxson’s short article from a few years ago BOSNIA: How the war started:

On March 18, 1992, Alija Izetbegovic (Bosnian-Muslim leader), Mate Boban (Bosnian-Croat leader), and Radovan Karadzic (Bosnian-Serb Leader) all reached an agreement on the peaceful succession of Bosnia & Herzegovina from Yugoslavia.

The Agreement was known as the Lisbon Agreement (it is also known as the Cutileiro Plan). The agreement called for an independent Bosnia divided into three constituent and geographically separate parts, each of which would be autonomous. Izetbegovic, Boban, and Karadzic all agreed to the plan, and signed the agreement.

The agreement was all set, internal and external borders, and the administrative functions of the central and autonomous governments had all been agreed upon. The threat of civil war had been removed from Bosnia, that is until the U.S. Ambassador Warren Zimmerman showed up.

On March 28, 1992, ten days after the agreement was reached that would have avoided war in Bosnia, Warren Zimmerman showed up in Sarajevo and met with the Bosnian-Muslim leader, Alija Izetbegovic. Upon finding that Izetbegovic was having second thoughts about the agreement he had signed in Lisbon, the Ambassador suggested that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. Izetbegovic then withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.

After Izetbegovic reneged on the Lisbon Agreement, he called a referendum on separation that was constitutionally illegal. On the second day of the referendum there was a Muslim-led attack on a Serb wedding. But the real trigger was Izetbegovic announcing a full mobilization on April 4, 1992. He could not legally do that without Serb & Croat consent, but he did it anyway. That night terror reigned in Sarajevo. The war was on.

The United States likes to point to Bosnia as a shining example of where it helped Muslims. It is true that the United States armed the Muslims in Bosnia. But, after many thousands of deaths and massive destruction throughout Bosnia, the Muslims were afforded by the terms of the Dayton Accords, less territory than they had been guaranteed by the Lisbon Agreement, which the United States urged the Muslim leader to reject.

The bottom line here is that this war didn’t have to happen at all. Nobody had to die in Bosnia. If Ambassador Zimmerman had just left Izetbegovic alone, then none of this would have happened to begin with. It’s that simple. The blame for all of the death and destruction associated with the Bosnian war lies exclusively with Alija Izetbegovic for starting the war, and with the U.S. President [Herbert Walker Bush] for sending that idiot Zimmerman to Bosnia in the first place.

In addition to journalism’s newfound/uncharacteristic/temporary respect for war chronology, as exemplified in the AP item above, I also recently stumbled on a Reuters report that casually mentions — as if this is how it was being reported all along — systematic rape on all sides, actually naming Croatians and Muslims as no less guilty than Serbs:

Amnesty urges justice for Bosnia war rape victims (Sep 30, 2009)

SARAJEVO, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Amnesty International urged Bosnia on Thursday to seek justice for up to 50,000 women and girls who were raped during the country’s 1992-95 war and to punish the perpetrators, many of whom still hold public posts.

During the war, Bosnian Croats, Serbs and Muslims all participated in systematic rape as part of widespread ethnic cleansing but the victims, most of them Muslims, have been denied reparations given to civilian war victims, the human rights watchdog said in a report. […]

The piece goes on to say that the estimate is actually between 20,000 and 50,000 victims (a 30,000-victim span!), and that most don’t come forward because of the stigma attached, as well as the fact that the culprits still occupy positions of power in officialdom and the police force. (As if the Muslim and Croatian soldiers who raped the 800 Serb women who did come forward aren’t freely walking around.)

Here’s just a related note on the man whose shooting at the Serbian wedding party was considered the opening shot of the Bosnian war. He died in 2007:

Bosnian crime boss killed (June 28, 2007):

SARAJEVO — Crime boss Ramiz Delalić was murdered late last night in Sarajevo.

The murder was not considered a surprise in Sarajevo, Delalić was known for problems with the law and a history of violent behavior. Delalić is best known for killing a Serbian man in front of a Serbian Orthodox Church in Sarajevo in 1992. He was not indicted for the crime until late 2004.

Police were unable to locate Dalalić until August 2004. During the 1992-1995 war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, [he] was the commander of the Ninth Motorized Brigade of the Bosnian Muslim Army.

Notice how in both Bosnia and Kosovo, the “freedom-lovers” whom we passed off as anti-communists in order to gain public approval for backing them are all crime bosses. Here’s more:

Bosnia: EUR 500,000 Found in Dead Crime Boss’s Apartment (B92, July 3, 2007)

SARAJEVO — Police found EUR 500,000 in the apartment rented by Ramiz Delalić, who was killed last week.

According to Dnevni Avaz, citing sources close to the police, ten to 15 kilograms of gold and platinum jewellery, ten pistols and two automatic weapons were found in the apartment as well.

Delalić was killed last Wednesday in front of the apartment, located in downtown Sarajevo.

He is best known to the public for being charged with killing a Serbian man at a Sarajevo wedding in May [sic] 1992, an event that sparked armed conflict in the city.

Delalić was familiar to Sarajevo police and was on different occasions charged for attacks on police officers, murder attempts, death threats, illegal possession of fire arms, violent behaviour and other crimes. […]

Kosovo Albanian suspect in Delalić murder (June 30, 2007)

SARAJEVO — Lirim Bytyqi, 29, native of Prizren, Kosovo, is suspected of murdering a Bosnian crime boss in Sarajevo Wednesday.

Police issued a warrant for Bytyqi’s arrest. He is also wanted on charges of inflicting severe gunshot wounds on Amir Faća, 36, in downtown Sarajevo on June 12.

Delalić was best known to the public for killing a Serbian man in front of a Serbian Orthodox Church in Sarajevo in 1992. […]

Indeed, it seems that every other jihadi — whether Middle Eastern or Eastern European or even black or white or any of the hundreds of thousands of all colors being converted while in jail — has a criminal background separate from jihad. As I’ve written before, it’s the inability to walk a straight path that draws them to jihad to begin with — criminality with a higher purpose.

In addition to the Duka brothers who were planning a massacre at Ft. Dix, and in addition to Kosovo’s leaders — all of whom started out as petty and not so petty crooks and continue their rackets today — we have this update on the Bosnian guy involved in the North Carolina-based plot disrupted over the summer:

…[Friend Jasmin] Smajic claims that the arrested Anes Subasic was a “refugee” from Bosnia who fled ethnic persecution by Serbian authorities during the Bosnian civil war that started in 1992. [Here we go again. Ah, how war traumatizes the violent people instigating it.]

The police in the Bosnian Serb city of Banja Luka say that the 33-year old Anes Subasic was born in a Banja Luka suburb of Laus, that his father went by a pseudonym Tutma, but that Anes is a man involved in criminal activities that include attempted murder, extortion and robbery.

The Bosnian Serb police say that in 1992, Anes changed his name to Mladen, an ethnic Serbian name, and that under both names Anes was charged 11 times on 16 counts of attempted murder, extortion and robbery.

The police in Banja Luka has also investigated Anes Subasic for an attempted murder of Stanslav Koljancic, an ethnic Serb and an owner of Banja Luka night club Kajak.

In my recent unpublished letter to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, I tried to warn the zombies about the possible backgrounds of some of the paper’s celebrated, resettled “victims” of the Bosnian war, saying that Salt Lake City shooter Sulejman Talovic’s father wasn’t the only one who lied about his war record to get refugee status. I should have added that they can also lie about their criminal records to get that status:

Bosnian fighting extradition indicted on South Dakota charges (March 23, 2007):

SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota-A Bosnian man was indicted on state charges of aggravated assault as he fights extradition for a 1995 slaying in his homeland.

Samir Avdic, who was found guilty in absentia in his home country of shooting and killing a man while they hid in a cave to escape the violence in Bosnia, has been fighting a federal complaint accusing him of being a fugitive from a foreign country.

Avdic, 40, is in the United States on a temporary visa and has been living in Sioux Falls with his family and working at the John Morrell & Co. meatpacking plant. He was arrested March 9 by Sioux Falls police after he
was accused of using his vehicle to ram into another vehicle carrying his stepdaughter’s boyfriend.

A grand jury on Thursday indicted him on two counts of aggravated assault, three counts of simple assault and reckless driving…In August 1995, Avdic and two other men were hiding in a cave while the nearby town of Srebrenica was under siege by Serbian forces, according to the federal complaint. The three men argued and Avdci fatally shot one of them in the back and, with the third man’s help, threw the body down a
ravine, according to the complaint.

A Bosnian court issued a warrant for Avdic’s arrest in November 1998 and he was convicted a month later.

Avdic was initially sentenced to 12 years in prison but an appeals court later reduced it to six years after re-evaluating mitigating factors, the complaint states.

So even when they’re not in battle, Bosniaks — like Albanians — have a propensity to kill. That must be the mitigating factor. Similarly, even Croatia’s heroes and top military commanders are ex-cons: Croat War Crimes General was Armed Robber (AP)


On Oct. 17, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, which boasts the largest concentration of Bosnian Muslims outside Bosnia, published one of its typical Bosniak-bruise-stroking pieces, this time in the Religion section by writer Tim Townsend. The particular event being reported on was a visit paid by Bosnia’s ubiquitous chief mufti Mustafa Ceric, doing one of his usual “interfaith” numbers. Here is an excerpt from the seemingly innocuous report from that evening:

Grand Mufti of Bosnia addresses St. Louis interfaith gathering

About 420 people of all religious stripes converged on the Hilton St. Louis Frontenac Thursday night to share a meal and hear from the night’s keynote speaker, Mustafa Ceric, the grand mufti of Bosnia.

Imam Muhamed Hasic of the Islamic Community Center, a largely Bosnian mosque in St. Louis, said Ceric was “the highest authority for Bosnian Muslims. He’s like the pope for us.”

St. Louis is home to between 60,000 and 70,000 Bosnians, according to the International Institute, making it the largest Bosnian community outside Bosnia and Herzegovina. Many of them fled their country during the Yugoslav civil war of the early 1990s, an ethnic conflict that killed an estimated 100,000 people, including 8,000 Bosnian Muslims during the massacre [sic] in 1995 in Srebrenica.

“It means so much to us,” said Hasic. “He’s the most respected person in Bosnia and in the diaspora.” […]

The item recalled the steady stream of Post-Dispatch pieces which dutifully reinforce the already cemented, exclusively Muslim version of the Bosnian war that we get as the official truth. The newspaper habitually lavishes more victimhood on the Muslims than they themselves ever imagined they could garner. I recalled the Post-Dispatch article titled “The Long Shadow of Bosnia’s Genocide” by a Patrick McCarthy, a victimhood-monger who’s apparently made a career of casting the Bosniaks as innocent victims of genocide. A no longer online-accessible excerpt of his Holocaust-language-laden op-ed from 2007 reads:

Thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Catholics had been herded into the Omarska mining complex outside the city of Prijedor where they were being subjected to unspeakable acts of barbarism and cruelty. Images broadcast around the globe of skeletal Omarska inmates echoed the Holocaust and awakened the realization that genocide had returned to Europe in our lifetime.

After working hard to reestablish themselves in a new culture, Bosnians from Prijedor now are ready to tell their wartime stories. The St. Louis Holocaust Museum and Learning Center will present an exhibit this fall called “Prijedor: Lives from the Bosnian Genocide” that will feature documentary artifacts, photographs and first-person accounts by Prijedor survivors in St. Louis.

The Prijedor exhibit at the Holocaust Museum and Learning Center offers us another opportunity to witness, listen and learn as we renew a tattered commitment to the pledge, “Never Again.”

Of course, we don’t need this hack to tell us what the Omarska camp was or wasn’t. But for good measure, a St. Louis Jewish publication helped shill for that “Holocaust” exhibit at the museum, which is a department of the Jewish Federation. Even more appalling, Bosnian Ambassador Bisera Turkovic — who issued passports to mujahedeen — inaugurated the exhibit.

Then the next nauseus Post-Dispatch account came to mind, this time concerning a “Memorial Quilt” that the Bosnians were sewing and hoping to place in the U.S. Holocaust Museum. Here was the dripping, dramatic opening to that one:

Tribute to massacre victims
By Michele Munz

Senahid, 17, student.

Saban, 48, father of six children.

Nino, 20, a journalist.

These are just three of the 20 Bosnian genocide [sic] victims whose names were woven into a quilt unveiled Sunday in St. Louis….The memorial quilt was woven in Bosnia-Herzegovina to commemorate the 1995 genocide in Srebrenica.

“It is very comparable to the AIDS quilt in how it raised awareness,” said Nihad Sinanovic, who was 11 when he escaped from Srebrenica in 1993 [i.e. bussed out by the Bosnian-Serbs along with the rest of the women and children]. “It will bring a lot of attention to how 8,000 men and boys [of fighting age] were killed.”

[Advocacy Project director Iain] Guest hung the quilt outside the Islamic Community Center in St. Louis, where a special religious commemoration ceremony was held Sunday. He snapped pictures while women in traditional head scarves laid roses underneath the quilt.

“It’s a perfect idea,” said Rusmin Topalovic, vice president of the local group of Srebrenica survivors. “We are going to work as much as possible to get all the names on it.” He said he envisioned the quilt eventually resting at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum — “to stay there forever.”

The same summer, some St. Louis Jews helped Bosnian Muslims get a new mosque approved by the city: “Jews help Muslims fight county council,” July 16, 2007, by Tim Townsend:

When Rick Isserman found out last month that St. Louis County wouldn’t allow a group of Muslims to build a new mosque in south St. Louis County, the story sounded too familiar.

Forty-eight years earlier, Isserman’s grandfather, Rabbi Ferdinand Isserman, fought to move his congregation, Temple Israel, from the city to the county, where the Jewish population had been relocating for some years. The city of Creve Coeur cited zoning problems and tried to block the move, but the rabbi and his flock took the case to the Missouri Supreme Court and prevailed.

In the spring, the St. Louis County Council refused the Islamic Community Center’s request to rezone a 4.7-acre parcel it bought a year before for $1.25 million. The Muslims — mostly Bosnian immigrants — planned to build a second mosque and community center in addition to the current mosque and center off South Kingshighway in St. Louis.

When Khalid Shah, a member of the mosque and a friend of Isserman’s, told him about the council’s decision, the 53-year-old Department of Agriculture employee began making the connection to his family’s legal legacy. “I’m fighting the same battle as my grandfather 50 years ago,” Isserman said. “It’s a different community and a different place, but it’s the same issue.”

A county attorney brushed off notions that the dispute is rooted in dramatic constitutional questions of religious freedom… “They didn’t think it was appropriate zoning,” [Robert Grant] said…[T]he charge of discrimination is contentious, even among Bosnians. “In my opinion this was not religious discrimination,” said Sukrija Dzidzovic, publisher and editor of Sabah, a Bosnian-American weekly newspaper based in St. Louis. “This was a mistake on Imam Hasic’s part. He should not have bought land that was zoned for commercial use, hoping that he could change the zoning.” […]

Finally, I remembered another Post-Dispatch piece from that year, titled “Local Bosnians condemn U.N. acquittal of Serbia in genocide,” (Feb. 27) which yet again presented the Muslim side with sympathetic indignation:

They saw their houses destroyed, family members killed and were forced to flee their homeland. On Monday, many Bosnians in St. Louis suffered what they called their latest indignity when the International Court of Justice cleared Serbia of direct intent to commit genocide although it says the country failed to prevent the 1995 massacre [sic] at Srebrenica.

On Gravois Avenue near Bevo Mill, in the heart of the St. Louis Bosnian community, the court’s ruling was met with indignation and anger. “Obviously, I’m upset,” said Enes Bajric, as he sat in a booth at Cafe Milano, smoked and sipped strong coffee. Bajric, 24, came to St. Louis 10 years ago. He lost an uncle and two cousins in the war. “It can never be repaired, what’s been done to us,'’ he said. “They killed us.”

“With this ruling, the world has confirmed that genocide and extermination of European Muslims was justified, and anyone who wants to continue and do it again will have support from Europe,” said [Amir] Hotich, a travel agency owner who also operates a Bosnian language newspaper.

SO GETTING TO THE POINT. By the time I read about the mufti’s recent visit, I’d already had enough. So I decided to politely reach out to one of the nobodies who run that small pond press. The letters editor seemed like a logical choice to start with. And so I emailed letters editor Jamie Riley the following:

Dear Ms. Riley,

Is it too late to respond to a piece that ran on Oct. 17??

It’s actually a rather important letter, as it responds to the benevolent presentation of the Bosnian mufti to your readers. In fact, he speaks out of one side of his mouth when speaking to Westerners, and out of another when speaking in Bosnia or to Muslims in Europe. Criticized recently by the Bosnian-Muslim media (for glossing over a pedophilic imam’s crimes), he accused the Bosnians of Islamophobia. But that’s the least of the disturbing news about chief mufti Mustafa Ceric. He’s not the man that Tim Townsend is portraying to your readers.

Sorry for the yapping. Would just like to hear if it’s not too late to proceed with a letter about the grand mufti.
Julia Gorin
Las Vegas

I got an immediate, pleasant reply:

From: Jamie Riley []
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:20 PM
To: Julia Gorin
Subject: RE: quick question: is it too late…

It’s not too late.

I look forward to reading your letter.


So I wrote the following letter and emailed it to Ms. Riley that night. Here is what it said:

Dear Jamie,
I spent the last three hours cutting this in half. I’m still over the proper word count, but I wanted to give you the option of determining what’s most interesting to keep in, and what can go. Thanks again, and I’ll stay tuned.
Julia Gorin
Dear Editor:

Your paper should be careful about inuring readers to the Bosnian mufti Mustafa Ceric as he does the interfaith tango on our shores. (“Grand Mufti of Bosnia addresses St. Louis interfaith gathering,” Oct. 17.) These one-way tolerance-building exercises have been a good cover for the mufti, who says one thing to Western audiences and another to European Muslims. They also help fair-minded Americans let their guards down. But Ceric’s background calls for our guards to be up.

Ceric twice this summer called for incorporating Sharia law into the Bosnian constitution — which also governs increasingly wary Catholic Croats and Orthodox Serbs. He recently conducted Bosnia’s first mass Sharia wedding, paid for by Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi. Before that, Ceric suggested that all European Muslims should have a single political and religious leader, and last year he defended fundamentalists who beat up a TV crew reporting on a pedophilic imam. When criticized, Ceric called the Bosnian media Islamophobic.

Ceric regularly insists that no one in Bosnia is cooperating with al-Qaeda. In addition to the disrupted, Bosnia-hatched plot to assassinate world leaders at Pope John Paul’s funeral in 2005, the Washington Times in 2003 reported that Bosnia “now serves as a base for al Qaeda operatives.” A 2004 AFP dispatch read, “Osama bin Laden is actively directing terrorist cells in the former Yugoslav republic of Bosnia.” Further, Bosnia’s Zenica region provided the training ground for those who conducted a series of Baghdad suicide attacks in August 2003. And a 2005 raid on a Sarajevo apartment turned up suicide vests, exploding bullets, rifles and a machine gun, to be used on the British embassy. The International Herald Tribune recalled that “Bosnia gave passports to more than 800 former fighters and ‘aid workers’ from the Middle East.” These included 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, whom Bosnia had secretly granted citizenship to.

In 2007 Ceric attended a Mecca conference, hosted by the Saudi-funded Muslim World League, which has called Jews and Christians “apes” and “pigs” and beseeched the world’s Muslims to “put pressure” on Serbs and Jews. Ceric’s co-panelists included authors of textbooks denouncing Christians and the “wicked nation” of Jews as enemies of Muslims. The same year, Ceric dispatched imam Sulejman Bugari to tour North America. Bugari has told his Sarajevo flock, “With the Americans’ help, [Jews] have again outsmarted the entire world, especially the economy. We consume American-Jewish products every day…” At sermons he reminds worshippers that “jihad was necessary and will be necessary.”

Ceric was recently named by the Bosnian NGO ‘Croatia Libertas’ in charges it filed against Bosnian-Muslim political, military and religious leaders for war crimes committed at over 300 concentration camps set up for non-Muslims by the Bosnia-Herzegovina Army in 1991-95. And yet St. Louis Bosnians refer to “the most respected” Ceric, “the highest authority for Bosnian Muslims,” as Tim Townsend reported.

Townsend’s article was just the paper’s latest in a continuous stream of dutiful affirmations of exclusively Muslim victimhood and Serbian villainy. This doesn’t do any favors for the wider readership, surrounded by the “largest Bosnian-Muslim community,” as the paper likes to boast. The longer we adhere to Bosnian war dogma, the harder it will be to stray from it later, as more light is shed on that era. The Post-Dispatch must start giving St. Louis a more realistic and balanced assessment of the war, and thereby of the community in its midst. Salt Lake City got that assessment the hard way, via the 2007 Trolley Square massacre. The Bosnian shooter’s father lied about his military record on his refugee application. He wasn’t the only one.

The following day passed without a peep from the initially responsive Ms. Riley. And so did the next day. Not even a rejection, nor a response to my one-sentence follow-up asking if I should shorten the letter further, nor to my note below:

From: Julia Gorin
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:58 PM
To: ‘’; ‘’
Subject: so am i still staying tuned?

Dear Jamie,
Just checking in — since October is almost over and Oct. 17th is seeming more distant. You said you were looking forward to getting the letter that I therefore proceeded to work on. I submitted it yesterday morning. Just hoping to get a status report. Thanks much.

So it was pretty obvious that my usual experience with mainstream editors and their great wall of silence concerning the Balkans was replaying itself at yet another clone paper. But in the event that Ms. Riley had taken a sudden vacation or died, I decided on Friday morning to just make sure my letter would be considered, and therefore emailed the next nobody — the paper’s editorial page editor, Gilbert Bailon. Here is what I sent him:

From: Julia Gorin
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:58 AM
To: ‘’
Subject: The Post Dispatch’s Bosnian-Muslim coverage

Dear Mr. Bailon,
On Tuesday Oct. 27 I emailed Jamie Riley asking if it was too late to respond to a piece that ran on Oct. 17. I explained why the Bosnian chief mufti whose visit Tim Townsend covered was not someone that St. Louis readers should be inured to…Jamie emailed back almost immediately saying that it wasn’t too late, and that she was looking forward to my letter.

After crafting it for several hours, then spending as many hours cutting it in half, I sent it to her Tuesday night, so that she would have gotten it Wednesday morning. But in contrast to her initial responsiveness, the entire rest of the day — and then all of Thursday — I got only stone silence…

I fear that, unless she coincidentally took a vacation these past two days, the letter may have scared her off. (I include it for you below.) This is actually a frequent phenomenon when editors are faced with the unthinkable: a dissenting voice on the official narrative of the Bosnian war…

In addition to illuminating mufti Ceric’s background, my letter made a wider point, and perhaps that’s what scared off Ms. Riley. It was asking for a more realistic, balanced, and accurate approach to Bosnia-related coverage than your paper habitually gives…I’m not going to use the hostile word “pander” when I say that I understand your paper’s need to serve your 60-70,000-strong Bosnian-Muslim community. But sometimes a readership is better served when it is challenged, and not always nodded to. The readership should be challenged to recall what many Muslims of the armed Srebrenica “safe haven” did to neighboring Serb villages — for years before they finally met with a response.

I’ll understand if you simply delete this email. Not to sound too dramatic, but I speak from my own experience and that of others when I say that casting a critical eye on the Balkan wars is the hardest thing a journalist can do — and so most don’t. Certainly if you endeavor to present readers with a more realistic and accurate picture of the war and therefore some of those 60-70,000 in your midst, the paper will not have the peace it currently enjoys with the news and opinion as it is. After all, Serbian-Americans are used to the one-sidedness, the demonization and the futility of asking for balance, and therefore do not call, fax or email by the thousands with angry reactions or threats every time a paper publishes another fictitious claim about the 1990s. But if your coverage ever did do what journalists used to do — create controversy by presenting uncomfortable truths — you’d see a clear change in reaction.

If you’ve gotten this far, I thank you. The reason I wrote to you specifically is that I don’t know what forum in your paper I could make this point in other than the opinion section (there is no ombudsman section for longer letter-publishing). In the unlikely event that you would be willing to publish my nearly commentary-length letter below as an op-ed (it’s 500-some words), I’d be willing. Or I could compose an altogether new piece if you indicate what you feel are the most compelling points between what I’ve written above and the letter below. Thanks very much.
Julia Gorin

True to clone form, Bailon didn’t write anything back either. And so the complacent Post-Dispatch continues to enjoy the temporary peace it gets from coddling its Muslim readership. Such that when the St. Louis version of the Salt Lake City shooter Sulejman Talovic finally introduces himself to Post-Dispatch readers, it will take them completely by surprise.

No sooner did I call this small pond press’s attention to the real Mustafa Ceric than there was an update on the good mufti, who has it in for the U.S. ambassador to Bosnia, Raffi Gregorian, whom he accuses of being behind a recently published report and criminal-network diagram “that featured a number of top Bosnian Muslim political, religious and business leaders. Ceric and Fahrudin Radoncic, the owner of the country’s largest newspaper publisher Avaz, were shown at the centre of the criminal network, which also included the Muslim member of Bosnia’s tripartite presidency Haris Silajdzic and the leader of the Muslim main Party of Democratic Action (SDA), Sulejman Tihic. …Ceric said the published documents resembled the “(Nazi Germany’s) final solution for Jews in Europe.”

The episode echoes Ceric’s comments from the summer of 2007, when Gregorian finally first admitted that many of the still un-deported mujahedeen in Bosnia have al Qaeda links and that there are Bosnian officials who help al Qaeda by “hiding agents [and/or] giving financial assistance or false documents.”

In response, Ceric “accused Deputy High Representative Raffi Gregorian of spreading Islamophobia with his claims that some persons of Afro-Asian origin who were granted Bosnian citizenship are probably linked with this terrorist group… ‘It is a sin and immoral to link Bosnian Muslims with terrorist organizations,’ Ceric said. ‘Such statements give us grounds to fear that this is an introduction for the next act of genocide against our people,’ Ceric told believers who gathered in the south-eastern town of Nevesinje for the ceremony of opening a reconstructed mosque. In his strong-worded address, Ceric said that the same language had been used about Jews before the Holocaust was committed.”

So that’s our Bosnian mufti. An excellent summary of this “pope” to St. Louis Bosniaks follows, from blogger Colin Meade in 2006:

[Ceric] demanded the introduction of religious education in schools, and said that Muslims had to reject “European trash” — alcohol, drugs and prostitution. He launched a campaign against ethnically mixed marriages. He prohibited the sale of pork in Sarajevo — an order taken by the Western media as proof that Islamic fundamentalism was penetrating the heart of Europe…He has suggested that Bosnian Muslims should follow the example of the world’s 1 billion Muslims and reject western secular society.

According to Ceric himself, Bosnia today is a halfway house between the House of Islam (Dar al-Islam) and the House of War (Dar al-Harb). In this halfway house, known as the Dar al-Sulh (House of the Truce), “Islam or the shariah cannot be implemented fully, but the government should endeavour to put it into practice as much as possible”. [So in Bosnia] “it is unrealistic to expect us to implement shariah completely. That’s what I want, of course, but it will not happen just like that.”

On interfaith dialogue, Ceric has this to say: “Muslims who want to meet people of other faiths have every right to do so but it is wrong to accept much from such forums (…) Islam is the religion of God and it is the best way forward known to man. In it lies the salvation of humanity, dignity and all that is required for a creature to be classified as a human”. [incidentally does the last bit mean that non-Muslims are non-human creatures?]

In Europe, as Ceric explained to the BBC’s Dominic Casciani in February 2005, “governments must essentially buy the trust of Muslims by institutionalizing their faith — giving it state sponsorship through schools, official bodies and so on…” He also calls for the establishment of a unified European representative Muslim agency at European level. Thus, according to Ceric, the way for Europeans to integrate Muslims is to allow — or even force them — to live under an Iranian-style system governed by authoritative figures such as himself in the very heart of Europe.

In interviews with Western journalists, Ceric gives replies of the utmost obscurity, hoping that our fervent desire that there should be no “Muslim threat” will lead us to hear what we wish to hear.

But the Mufti dissembles. “At a dinner to honour the [British] foreign guests who attended Mustafa Ceric’s installation as Ra’is al-Ulama”, writes a British Muslim who was there, “Dr Ceric…spoke brilliantly, totally at ease, free of the constraints that the presence of non-Muslims had imposed elsewhere.”

In closing, I’ll just note that my odyssey with the Post-Dispatch was actually my second attempt to get a letter into its pages. I’d sent the first one to the previous letters editor, a Maureen Tomczak, in response to the 2007 Put-Our-Quilt-in-the-Holocaust-Museum article, and it too was summarily ignored:

Dear Maureen,
This is the letter I had in mind. Just a warning: it’s not pretty, it’s not politically correct, and it will be a bitter pill for many to swallow…

“Tribute to Massacre Victims” (July 9) quoted Srebrenica survivor group spokesman Rusmin Topalovic as saying that he envisions the memorial quilt eventually resting at the US Holocaust Museum. If the museum does agree to hang the quilt, it should do so after it hangs up photographs of the Bosnian Muslims who fought alongside the Nazis during WWII as part of the Waffen SS Handzar and SS Kama divisions. These, too, are an important part of Holocaust history. As is the Jerusalem Mufti Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, who created these units of Bosniaks with the intention of clearing Europe, and then Palestine, of the Jews — killing thousands of Serbs, Roma (gypsies) and Jews along the way.

Next to the quilt and these companion exhibits, the museum should display a photo of the late fundamentalist Muslim president of Bosnia, Alija Izetbegovic, who remains a hero to Bosnian Muslims everywhere for starting Bosnia’s war of independence from multi-ethnic Yugoslavia — and who in his youth was a recruiter for the Waffen SS. This would be the same Alija Izetbegovic who resurrected the Handzar Division in 1991 and unleashed them upon Serbian and Croatian civilians.

[In 1991, six months before the civil war started], the cover article of a glossy Bosnian-Muslim youth magazine named “VOX” was titled “The Handzar Division is Ready…The Fourth Reich is Coming; Welcome,” and showed a drawing of a Muslim in a Nazi SS uniform and a fez, with his boot on the blood-dripping, severed head of the Bosnian-Serb leader Radovan Karadzic (pictured next to three other severed Serbian heads). This Sarajevo-based magazine should be included in the exhibit as well, along with photos of the mutilated, decapitated and burned bodies of 3,262 Serbs killed by Srebrenica Muslims who were launching attacks from that designated “safe haven.”

With the full exhibit thus in place, Bosniaks might better understand how it came to be that between 3,000 and 7,000 of their males of fighting age were put into their graves after they refused to surrender their position at Srebrenica and later fled with their guns blazing. Further, with the above-suggested reminder of the contributions by their parents, grandparents and revered leaders to the Holocaust, Bosniaks might also understand why their quilt should be rejected by a Holocaust museum, though it probably won’t be.

As a post-script I’ll add that, in the midst of my back-and-forth with the Post-Dispatch, the next clone paper committed more of the same. This time it was Connecticut’s Hartford Courant, publishing a Bosnian Muslim with his usual lamentations about Western indifference to the self-imposed Bosnian-Muslim suffering. So again, I set pen to paper and promptly heard nothing back:

Dear Editor:

It couldn’t escape my notice that every relative Mr. Duric mentions as killed in the Bosnian war ( “I Dream, but I’m Still in Bosnia,” Nov. 1) was a male of fighting age. He might notice that he, a seven-year-old, was left alive in the Serb-run concentration camp that the West gives Bosnian Muslims free reign to compare to WWII concentration camps — where upon arrival Jewish children were sent to the gas chamber and babies had their skulls smashed into walls. The same happened to Serbian children in Croatia’s never-mentioned WWII concentration complex Jasenovac, where Bosnian Muslims guarded the grounds and helped round up Serbs, Jews, gypsies and anti-Fascists. So naturally, when Croatia and Bosnia illegally seceded and usurped the internationally recognized borders of UN member Yugoslavia, the regions of Serbs they took with them weren’t prepared to live under the knife of the Croatians who had killed their families, nor under the Islamic state that was the ambition of our pal, the fundamentalist Bosnian wartime president Alija Izetbegovic.

Mr. Duric wants readers to think that in the 90s only Muslims were placed into concentration camps; pay no attention to the charges filed by the NGO “Croatia Libertas” against Bosnian political, military and religious leaders for war crimes committed at 331 concentration camps set up for non-Muslims by the Bosnian government. Indeed, as Mr. Duric describes the feeling of seeing the man who killed his father — perhaps in combat, but the writer won’t tell us — walking freely, he doesn’t seem to have any qualms about the free-walking Naser Oric, commander of the Srebrenica Muslims who slaughtered whole villages of Serbs nearby. Nor is the writer disturbed by any number of other Bosnian-Muslim commanders and soldiers who were either acquitted or had their sentences reduced or overturned after the Hague — almost 10 years into the Tribunal’s mandate — finally started prosecuting more than just Serbian war criminals.

Amid the phantasmagoria of exclusive and pure Bosnian victimhood, there isn’t an iota of print space devoted to even one non-Muslim victim of a war that the Muslim side forced — and then ensured when Izetbegovic removed his signature from the 1992 Lisbon Agreement. There are more documented cases of Serbian women raped by Croatians (800) than the long-debunked figure that Mr. Duric recycles of “50,000” Muslims raped by Serbs. (See Peter Brock’s 2006 book “Media Cleansing.”) Mr. Duric’s statistical handiwork reappears with the “200,000” Bosnian war dead that he attributes “to some sources.” Mr. Duric is cleverly referring readers to pre-2005 sources, since the figure has been reduced to a confirmed 93,000 on all sides, expected to go up to 100,000, according to Sarajevo’s Investigation and Documentation Center, as first reported by Reuters in 2004.

Mr. Duric continues to berate the West for not doing enough and reproaches the UN weapons embargo — an embargo which we went around illegally in order to help the Muslim side, which was also receiving help from Croatia, Iran, and thousands of mujahedeen. Why was the West supposed to do even more than we did on behalf of the bellicose party? Neither our one-sided help nor the one-sided history we’ve been writing on their behalf is enough for Bosnian Muslims. But having thus reinforced their sense of grievance, in response we get Bosnian Muslim Sulejman Talovic shooting nine Americans in the 2007 Salt Lake City massacre (killing five); a Bosnian conspirator named Anes Subasic in the North Carolina-based plot that was disrupted over the summer; a Bosnian nexus for the plan targeting world leaders at the pope’s funeral in 2005; and a Bosnian soldier’s bomb instructions found by our troops when they invaded Afghanistan in October, 2001. To name just a few.

I am not going to call Mr. Duric a liar, because when a person has suffered greatly, as Mr. Duric clearly has, it’s natural to engage in self-deception about the big picture in whose crossfire he was caught — as were so many Serbs and Croats who suffered at the hands of Bosnian Muslims and their chainsawing mujahedeen accomplices. But it doesn’t mean the rest of us also have to keep lying to ourselves about that war and continue swallowing the cartoonish and exclusively Muslim version of it.

What may be the final follow-up to the Valentine’s week massacre of 2007 got local coverage only — in the Salt Lake Tribune and by Salt Lake City radio station KSL. But at least a couple of the findings in this recently released FBI report on the incident go unmentioned by either news organization. Here are the significant findings in the report about Bosnian-Muslim murderer Sulejman Talovic, who killed five Americans and wounded four:

1) Talovic was described as a religious Muslim, attending mosque on Fridays and praying outside of mosque as well.

2) He wore a necklace with a miniature Koran at the time of the shooting.

3) His body was prepped at a mosque before being sent to Bosnia.

4) He told his “girlfriend” the night before that “tomorrow will be the happiest day of my life…” (a likely reference to martyrdom).

5) He held prejudicial beliefs against Serbs, homosexuals, and blacks.

6) Police were called to his school in 2004 after Talovic was caught looking at guns on the internet and making the statement that his “grandfather was in the jihad.”

That last one indicates that Bosnians secretly know they were engaged in a jihad even as they claim victimhood.

In this redacted FBI form, meanwhile, a co-worker said that Talovic would sometimes do Nazi salutes.

But for some reason, the emphasis in this Salt Lake Tribune article is not on the fact that Talovic had a history with Islam, hatred and violence (all mutually-fueling factors), but on the fact that he had a history with the mall as a hangout:

FBI found Talovic had a history with Trolley Square (May 16)

When 18-year-old Sulejman Talovic walked into Trolley Square and opened fire on shoppers, he was returning to a childhood hangout, according to newly-released FBI documents.

Talovic and his family used to live one block from the mall, and one person told agents Talovic played there with his sisters as a child.

But in 745 pages of reports, the FBI did not conclude why Talovic committed the Feb. 12, 2007, shooting or uncover any evidence of a wider plot behind them…

And of course, if there is no wider plot, then let’s block out the possibility of Sudden Jihad Syndrome as well.

…The FBI wrote that Talovic in 2001 or 2002 “made a statement that he was going to shoot white people, like Serbs.” The nine people Talovic shot at Trolley Square were white.

“…white people, like Serbs.” That would be a reference to us, Folks. How many times do I have to say it? In the Balkans, Serbs were target practice for Muslims — like Jews are in the Middle East. Practice for the rest of us. And so we helped the Muslims take aim.

…One of the people later told the FBI Talovic said he liked white supremacist music.

“I don’t like black people,” Talovic reportedly said. “That’s why I was in the KKK.”

Another witness said he once saw a wound on Talovic’s arm and asked about it.

“Talovic said he had previously gotten a swastika tattoo and had then removed it himself, by cutting it off,” according to notes of the witness interview. Talovic said “he did not know what the swastika meant and stood for when he had gotten the tattoo.” Talovic’s family told agents he did not have a tattoo.

One person…told the FBI Talovic said he hated “faggots” and was smoking opium and crystal meth.

Talovic wore a necklace containing a miniature Quran during the attacks, documents say, and FBI agents asked many people about Talovic’s Islamic faith. Family told agents Talovic once attended a mosque for prayers every Friday but stopped when he left school and began working. Co-workers did not observe Talovic praying during the day. The FBI found no evidence his religion was a factor.

Stacy Hanson, a Talovic victim who is confined to a wheelchair as a result, in an interview Friday said… “It doesn’t change anything, but it’s nice to know something about this guy because our lives have been changed — every single one of us.”

FBI report finds no motive for ‘07 mall shooting (May 17)

A report of an FBI investigation into a Utah mall shooting says agents could find no reason for the Feb. 12, 2007 shootings or uncover evidence of a wider plot.

The investigation was finished in 2007 and details are only coming out now through a Freedom of Information Act request.

FBI agents say he bought shotgun shells on Feb. 8, 2007, then had a phone conversation the day before the attack, saying, “Tomorrow is going to be the happiest day of my life, but it will happen only once.”

“I can’t speculate as to what he may or may not have meant in saying that,” [FBI Special Agent Tim] Fuhrman said.

But Fuhrman says the FBI does know the attack wasn’t a terrorist attack, as some had speculated. “Clearly, he had some religious beliefs, but just because someone has religious beliefs doesn’t mean anything is a terrorist act, he said.

The FBI was unable to confirm many of these statements or prove they were what he truly believed. The agency does know that Talovic acted alone, without telling anyone why, leaving no notes or clues.

“We just were unable to pin down any particular motive as to why this would happen, and unfortunately his motivations went to the grave with him,” Fuhrman said.

No, they went to Paradise with him.

The documents also hint at possible mental issues and drug use leading up to the shooting. […]

There is no assessable “motive”, because Islam is still desperately viewed as a religion rather than a motive.

So, my fellow Americans. NOW do we think that maybe it really was “Allah Akbar” we heard in that much contested audio clip of the shooting?

Finally, it should be pointed out that the date of the shooting, Feb. 12th, is significant. Five years earlier, Feb. 12th was the opening day of the Hague tribunal against Slobodan Milosevic for finally fighting back against the Balkans monsters that were attacking his citizens. We put a reluctant anti-jihadist on trial on Feb. 12, 2002, and on the same day five years later one of the monsters he was fending off opened fire on us.

When I first started analyzing the Trolley Square Massacre, I pointed to an instant defense that media and family alike used on behalf of the shooter: THE SERBS MADE ME DO IT! (I also suggested that perhaps Talovic learned to kill not from seeing Muslims killed, but from seeing Muslims kill.)

Continuing the time-honored tradition of finding the root Serbian cause of crime committed by any Bosnian, Albanian or Croatian anywhere in the world, a Croatian tried it in Ohio late last year:

Parole not possible for man who killed Willoughby dentist

Jasmin Miljkovic was tortured as a 12-year-old boy growing up in war-torn Bosnia…His mother hoped for a better life for her son when they moved to America, but Miljkovic never got over the post-traumatic stress from his early life.

On Wednesday in Lake County Common Pleas Court, Miljkovic — now 29 — seemed resigned to the fact that he will die in prison for murdering popular Willoughby dentist Robert Kalina.

[Public defender Charles] Grieshammer said Miljkovic — the father of an elementary-aged daughter — never meant to harm the 70-year-old dentist when he entered Kalina’s Willo Medical Building on Nov. 4, 2006, to steal a Rolex watch. [Living among Serbs made him covet Rolex watches!]

“This is a typical half-baked robbery plan,” said the defense attorney. “Dr. Kalina did something he did not expect. He gave resistance.”

“We welcomed you and your family into this country and then you turn around and show your appreciation by committing those very same acts (that occurred in Bosnia) on another person,” the judge said. […]